Why Sweden’s feminists are completely insane

Well, then, the women will be grateful for the chance to cook and clean for you and your pals.

 

The statistics are skewed because Sweden's rape laws include a lot of behavior that wouldn't be rape, or even a crime, in other countries.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/swedens-rape-crisis-isnt-what-it-seems/article30019623/​

You strike me as someone who uses the rape issue to refugee and liberal bash.

 

Rant, rant, rant.

Beam me up, Scotty....

 

Your version of "deplorables" vote, too. Watch out!

 

I don't see how you missed it.

http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/why-sweden%E2%80%99s-feminists-are-completely-insane.535278/page-5#post-1069242038

 

I missed nothing.

You made a false accusation.

Misogyny is irrational hatred of women and he said nothing whatsoever about women one way or the other making your assertion dishonest and false.

 

Get a clue. I made no "false accusation." He endorsed (see above) idiotic drivel (see above). The statement that "most feminists are hateful misandristic nutcases" is misogynistic, not to mention stupid.

Males who make the sorts of statements about women's equality made by @Glücksritter and @Evan245 would do well to get used to the idea women are going to have a say in how society operates.

 

Wrong.

You did make a false and dishonest accusation and that is proven fact.

Describing feminists or most feminists as hateful misandristic nutcases is a valid statement. You may disagree with it but it is in no way misogynistic.

One more time read slowly and try to comprehend. Misogyny is irrational hatred and/or mistrust of women. It is not opposition to or criticism of or even hatred of FEMINISTS.

Feminists and women are not the same, They are not equivalent or even synonymous.

Not all feminists are women many are men. Most women are not feminists. Feminism is an ideology embraced by a few.

Women need no feminism to have a say in society and no one opposes women having such a say. They oppose what feminists preach. There are in fact many proven examples of feminist beliefs which are not only misandry but also outright lies. Such as the pay gap or rape culture in western civilization or patriarchy.

It is not misogyny to call out such lies. Nor is it misogyny to criticize those clinging to and endorsing such false beliefs.

Equating misogyny to attacks on feminism is an out right lie and false accusation.

You made that false accusation

 

Are you metally disabled or something like that? You cited my statement 4 (!!!!!!!!!) times.

1. Yes, many feminists claim to fight for equality (not all, which you of course do not know as you are unable to produce anything more than a one-liner with stupid dull paroles), but this claim is ridiculous. Although meanwhile e.g. in the US bachelor and master degrees have a big gender gap in favor of girls/women (close to 60:40) feminists are not even thinking about giving up special programs to further favor girls/women over boys/men. If they were in any way interested in equal rights they would fight even for the opposite, special favouring of boys until the ratio is about 50% as the very same gap was the justification for favouring girls/women in the first place. I've read the comments those SJW feminist at campuses made about Paul Nungesser, the boy who was accused of rape by Emma Sulkowicz and found not guilty even by the low preponderance standard of proof (guilty when when the women's representative find the propability about 50:50) by the university as she stalked her "rapist" for two years via social media trying to blackmail him into a relationship. The comments of campus feminists to this topic "Well he is a priviledged White boy, surely he is guilty" wanting to see him rotting in jail simply for his gender (ok, some for being White as well). In fact I have seen a lot of feminist comments and I doubt that over 1% of them would have even a sense of injustice when an innocent man is sent to jail for a borderliner girl which looked for some attention to boost her career as a performance artist. Yes, there are some very few who pay attention to this problem after all, Wendy McElroy would occur to me e.g., but the vast majority simply hates men.

2. Swedens leftopia is a moralically rotten shithole and thats all. When their Jewish communities are attacked, Jews beaten up or murdererd, the official statements of the authoroties in Malmo are that the Jewish victims had to make more clear that they distance themselves from Israel. Aside that this is preposterous as there is no duty to hate Israel, sure the Arabs that beat Jews up in the streets or burning Synagogues are of course asking if their Jewish victim is against Israel.

Even taken aside the feminist and cultural-marxist crap you enjoy, this hateful little nation seems to have no better vision for this world as to destroy Israel and Russia (which they hate as well). I am asking myself how megalomaniac this country with its 8 million inhabitants can be to try to intimidate Russia on a regular basis.

 

You're full of it. Feminism is a belief in the equality of women, and that is a belief thoroughly endorsed by women generally. That some women add to that their personal beliefs and call it feminism is irrelevant.

Consider the definition of feminism:

noun

1. the doctrine advocating social, political, and all other rights of women equal to those of men.
2. (sometimes initial capital letter) an organized movement for the attainment of such rights for women.
3. Older Use. feminine character.

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/feminism​

As the vast majority of women believe in their equality, they (and you) are attacking women generally.

You're trying to redefine feminism to suit your ideology. I'm not buying it.

Wrong. Most women are feminists, and I'd even venture that most men are feminists. Feminism holds only that women are equal to men. It isn't an ideology or even an idea women get to define.

Women haven't achieved equality yet and there is a pay gap. "Rape culture?" I don't think so.

They're beliefs of facts open to debate. Hauling down feminism from behind over the questions is nonsense.

Seems to me you're a reactionary lashing out at women generally because you for some reason have accepted women get to define what "equality" looks like. My advice--don't be a wuss.

 

No I am not wrong you are.

It is you trying to redefine feminism as something everyone believes in and you are wrong.

Feminism is not about women;s equality and that is simple fact because women have that equality and no one is trying to take it away.

his is why no matter how much you wish it were false the truth is most women ARE NOT feminists and reject the label

No there is no pay gap period and that is absolute proven fact beyond question.

Yes women have achieved equality. There is no right men have which women do not.


You made a false accusation and that is proven fact, you can no more claim that all women are feminists than you can claim all workers are communists.

You wish it were true but it is not.

http://thelala.com/believe-womens-equality-identify-as-feminist/

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/16/feminism-poll_n_3094917.html

https://www.quora.com/What-percentage-of-women-are-feminist-in-the-USA

You may find a poll with slightly different numbers but you cannot find one where most women identify as feminists because they do not.

If they do not identify as feminists than they are not feminists and your misogynistic attempts to force the label on them is a failure. That is half the problem with feminists not only do they hate men they hate women even more because women can think for themselves.

 

Crime In Sweden, Part I: Is Sweden the ‘Rape Capital’ of Europe?
Claims that Sweden leads the world in sexual assault and rape are not supported by data.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/crime-sweden-rape-capital-europe/

 

If the article says something true, that the definition of rape vary a lot depending of the country and it could contribute to the fact that Sweden has more sexual crimes reported, it doesn't change that the number of the number of sexual offenses exploded. So even if you consider only rape, it stay steady, the number of sexual offenses did augmented a lot.

 

I'm not the one losing it. See above.

If they aren't pushing for equality, they aren't feminists.

University degree programs are only part of the education and job training mix. A lot of men opt for trades programs that end up paying even more money than jobs requiring a four-year degree. I don't see the university degree "gap" favoring women is necessarily a bad thing.

In recent years, teachers have been more concerned about the performance gap favoring girls in K-12. Female teachers in many cases are leading the way to come up with ways to help boys.

You "read comments" by self-proclaimed feminists and you'd condemn feminism because of them? Really? How bleeping absurd!

What "authorities" are you talking about? Malmo isn't the capital.

Marxist stuff I "enjoy?" Go xxxx yourself.

Their population is nine million.

What else don't you know?

 

This alone makes you someone I don't take seriously. Women do not have full equality.

Women are feminists even though the poison some nasty proponents as well as people like you have created around the term.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/feminism-project/poll/​

https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/feminism-poll_n_3094917​

ROFL

 

LOLZ. You are so deceptive but yet so obvious. You play the game of open-all-the-borders-for-we-muslims quite well; and it is plain to see why: You want to turn our countries into mirror images of the archaic, backwards, and failed countries your family came from--which is curious. If you love your culture so much why are you squatting in the West? Only the most brainwashed believes that having you in our countries is good for us. You and yours are bad news for the West, and I will fight tooth and nail and with everything I have to keep you from achieving your goal of establishing an Islamic caliphate. If it wasn't for social services that our traitorous governments hand out to people like you, you wouldn't be here. You and yours are not conducive to a free, progressive, Western World. You are like a weight around the neck of civilization.

 

Once again you are so deceptive and so obvious. We are fascists if we vehemently oppose the smothering of our world by our adversaries. Your ad hominem attacks on Westerners gets really old; but it seems like attacking people is the only form of discourse you can come up with. It is lame.

 

In the last few minutes, I've read three posts of yours. In all three you resort to calling people who do not want people like you living next door to them "fascists". You need to expand your vocabulary, and grow up. I know what you are up too. You are trying to shame Westerners into opening their borders to the hoards of people like yourself so as you can eventually outnumber the indigenous and assume 'ownership' of our countries. I would be ashamed if I was to let you and yours take over our civilization. Over my dead body.

 

Most of your posts don't make sense. You and yours are out smarted by white, straight, males. Bow down to the computer you use to post your anti-white male bashing. The internet and almost everything of value that you use is the result of white males' ingenuity. Next time you get an x-ray, have surgery, open your refrigerator door, turn on a light, you should give thanks to white males. lol. I say this because 1: its the truth, and 2: I know it pisses you off.

 

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They won't lose their place in society as the builders of our civilization. Civilization will collapse without their strength, critical thinking, innovation and creativity. All you have to do is look at South Africa. Went to a 'shining city on the hill' to a third world hell hole after the black ANC replaced whites in a massive affirmative action purge. Plop. down went South Africa and the same thing will happen to the rest of the Western World too.

 

What the hell does this even mean.

 

Typical. Your excess testosterone has clouded out any bit of intelligence.

 

He could be a graduate from our college brainwashing centers. I know a guy that graduated with barely the skills to teach kindergarten, but he is well versed in MSM bullsh*t.

 

Is @alexa a Muslim? Does it matter? There are a number of people, many nonreligious leftwingers, who for ideological reasons want to bring in refugees without much regard for the values the refugees bring with them.

I submit it's understandable working class people are reluctant to bring in people who are unwilling and/or unable to embrace modern western values. These immigrant refugees live in working class communities--it's the working class who rub shoulders with immigrant refugees on a daily basis. As well, younger men are over-represented among refugees and have limited access to women.

Refugees and immigrants compete for jobs, housing, and and public funds. They bring their cultural values and are often embolden to pressure the greater community to accept those values.

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We can handle them differently when they come here by making it clear what our values are and what we expect of them. We can also limit the numbers of single cultures by having good control of legal immigration and ending illegal immigration.

The most important thing we can do is educatedp their children in out public education system.

 

Not exactly sweden but in a similar country:
young German military recruits forced into sexually degrading medical inspections
perpetrated by none other than an almost entirely female-dominated nursing profession

gives you some idea of the type of things that go on (and very much related to the topic of this thread)