Why the Democrats are orchestrating and pushing for the invasion of illegal aliens

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  1. APACHERAT

    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If someone was able to register my dog to vote, I'm pretty sure an illegal alien can be registered to vote and all the Democratic party has to do is harvest the ballot.
     
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    I do not believe there they were enough amnestied illegals who became citizens to make a difference and cause a shift in making California blue. It seems as if California was blue before Reagan. You cannot base it on governor because many states that are blue vote in Republican governors.
    You have stats as to how many illegals got amnestied? What is there percentage of the population.
    You have any stats that show how many former illegals became citizens and voted and were Democrat.
     
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    How about all agreeing that entering the country illegally should be decriminalized? How about agreeing there should be free healthcare and education for illegals? Giving them drivers licenses? How about fighting against any measures to properly deport people and calling ICE racists? And not funding ICE to destabilize the border. How about not calling illegal aliens, illegal aliens? Claiming there are concentration camps we hold them in? We cage them like animals? Sanctuary cities? Read the BIG letters between the BIG lines.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Donor

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    Stealing entry into a country despite it's laws is just as illegal as robbing a bank. The spoils belong to the original owners. In this case, it's citizens. If you inherit stolen goods, they are confiscated. It is a rather splendid equivalency. If you want to be a U.S. Citizen.....there is a line. Go to the end. If you parents tried to steal it, they are the wrongful party....not my country!
     
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    No one is stealing entry into the country when reporting to an asylum portal, which is legal.

    Illegals who are working are 'stealing' jobs from Americans who won't work is what yabberefugee's false equivalency leads.

    Yabber, what is our current UE?
     
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    False logic. No one is defunding ice: a budget through NEXT year was passed. End of story.

    If an illegal is caught, deport them. End of story.

    Unless they have a citizen child, then something has to be done, and it is not sending the child to a country he does not know.
     
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    Illegal aliens can not vote.
     
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    None of this is advocating open borders. Sorry.
     
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    Such crackpot sources abound for anyone who wishes to pleasure himself with them.
     
  10. APACHERAT

    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    :roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol:


    Do Non-Citizens Vote in U.S. Elections?
    Holy bean burritos and cucarachas !!!

    Kinda looks like they mucho grande vote in America's elections.

    3 excerpts:
     
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  11. rahl

    rahl Well-Known Member

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    Once again quoting a source that does not support your claim, lol

    Illegals can not vote.
     
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    - Those immigrants coming across our southern border can't vote, as they aren't citizens.

    - The number of undocumented immigrants in America is not rising. And, for those here without documentation, the southern border is how barely half entered America.

    - Those who come from south of our border are socially conservative, predominently Catholic, and want work. The idea that Republicans can't appeal to them or their progeny is ridiculous - it's a condemnation of the Repulican party to suggest that Republicans can't appeal to socially conservative workers, especially given the many years required for becoming citizens for the few that can find such a route.

    - Democrats voted for the bipartisan immigration bill of 2013 that included more than $40 billion for the southern border, included requirements for fixing and using e-verify to protect jobs and to improve our visa system so potential immigrants would find it harder to come here legally and stay. That bill passed the Senate and would have passed the Republican controlled House had Republican Speaker Boehner not blocked it.

    - Sen Rubio (a desiger of the 2013 bill) stated that the 2013 bill would require 13 years at a minimum for any immigrant to manage citizenship. He said the path would be arduous, requiring significant and difficult to obtain documentation of work, residency, taxes, police records, etc., and would require paying back taxes. As a result, he stated that very few would even attempt the path.

    - Obama's administration was the first administration in the modern era to hold the number of undocumented aliens in the US to ZERO increase!! The claims that Dems want open boders are flat out lies as seen by Obama's record and the bipartisan immigration bill of 2013.

    - This video makes references to communism, but the Trump administration and Sen. McConnell are the ones who are protecting communist influence in America - working to defeat our democracy. The idea of pointing at the border as more important is BIG FAT LIE.

    There is ZERO truth in this video. And, its political statements about what Democrats want is a despicable lie based on more lies.

    These lies are so bald faced and counter to obvious fact that anyone should be able to recognize it.
     
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    Do you know what a Logical Fallacy is? I ask, because you just committed a massive one. You have Attacked the Source and not the argument. Tell us where the man is wrong i his statements, or you have zero credibility.
     
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    Illegals have voted in our elections since Dornan vs. Sanchez that we know of. Now people cannot even find the LA Times source or other articles on it confirming over 700 voted in one district alone back then. Since then, nothing has been done to stop it from happening.
     
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    So you are jumping in to make the same claim you can’t in any way substantiate? Lol
     
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    Trump's commission on fraud by indiviual voters gave up in failure.

    You say nothing has been done. I'm not so sure of that, but the first step would have been to find out that there was a problem.

    Obviously, foreign intervention in our democracy by enemy countries is a far bigger thing, and McConnell has blocked action on that - for which he was hansomely rewarded by a Russian oligarch.

    If you want to preserve our democracy, focusing on socially conservative Catholics who come here to work, not vote, is nutty. In fact, it looks like a red herring to deter action on actual issues.
     
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    Did you not notice the current crop of democrat candidates trashing Biden for obamas illegals policies?
     
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    If you have an issue, go ahead and state it.
     
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    The net has been scrubbed, but you can find some of the related articles out there proving hundreds of illegal aliens voted and nothing happened to them.... in a single district.

    https://www.ocregister.com/2012/01/22/voter-fraud-is-real-and-must-be-stopped/

    There used to be multiple LA Times stories affirming it as well as a NY Times article. But, it gets buried for partisan reasons. Even when it happened the press only wanted to report early, before the investigation was completed. Once it was proven, only a few articles came out, and then it was "forgotten".
     
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    Stealing is stealing. Sometimes stealing is just driving down labor prices that effect us all.....or falsifying I.D. and falsely collecting benefits Why can't your" future citizens" apply for asylum in Mexico? Is it because your Democrat leadership and George Soros wants them here?
     
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    The democrat party is cuckolding the black vote with illegal immigrants, and the blacks are taking like good sissies.
     
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    The equivalent of about 10 bucks per illegal aliens.

    Further assumes those making the payments are illegal aliens and not people here on H1B's who pay taxes but don't have SS numbers because it is assumed they will return home after their visas expire.
     
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    Dumb video. Dumb speaker. I'm going to write a new thread about the border crises to explain each side's position.
     
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    "Why the Democrats are orchestrating and pushing for the invasion of illegal aliens"

    actually, Trump is creating the increased number of asylum seekers - Trump created this issue
     
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    Exactly.

    All of these Illegal Border Crossings are Trump's FAULT.

    Trump's Watch = Trump's FAULT.

    Why does Trump continue to support Open Borders?
     

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