Why the First Amebdnent even applies to NFL players

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Balto, Sep 25, 2017.

  1. Tim15856

    Tim15856 Well-Known Member

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    Guyzilla Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    SO, can the boss say for instance, that they have to say, I am a ni$$er? Can he make them bark like a dog?
     
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    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Its hard to argue that Kaepernick wasn't intending to disrespect anything. Of course he was. That was his whole point. He wasn't going to stand for a flag of a country that in his mind oppresses black people. Standing for that flag is a generally accepted sign of respect for that country and flag, which is why he refused to stand. Not standing is without question an intended show of disrespect for the flag and country. That is the entire point of his actions.

    I am not one that gets all sentimental about the National Anthem, but I realize that many do and I fully respect their reverance. Outwardly disrespecting the flag and National Anthem is outwardly disrespecting their reasons for being reverential. Kaepernick probably doesn't understand their reasons for being reverential either, and for that reason probably doesn't understand the depths of disrespect that he is showing. Kaepernick probably doesn't see the flag as a symbol of those that have given their life in service to this country, and subsequently doesn't understand exactly how offensive his actions are to those that do see it that way. His complaints have nothing to do with the National Anthem or the flag, and he shouldn't be using his desire to highlight his issue as an excuse to disrespect something that so many people revere that really has nothing to do with his issue. It would be like somebody laughing during a funeral service. Whether or not that person understands how offensive their laughter is doesn't change the fact that it is highly offensive.

    On top of all of that, he isn't accomplishing anything anyway. Everybody is well aware of the BLM movement and what it stand for. Nobody's opinion on that movement is going to change because a few football players kneel during the National Anthem. All he is doing is creating an enormous problem for the NFL.
     
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    Of course they can. And they can request that an employee bark like a dog. There is no criminal breach in asking. But the employee can refuse and file civil tort case should he be penalized or fired. Why the absurd question?
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I know, some have never served or cared about their country but have more respect for spoiled millionaires.
     
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  6. Balto

    Balto Well-Known Member

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    Yet you'll praise Trump, who never served. The US Military is one of the last things anyone should join, period. I mean, Trump is clueless about a endless list of things, but even he got it that its more American to be a draft dodger over serving. Notice that no one put such a large emphasis on standing for the National Anthem until Kaspernick kneeled.
     
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    GrayMan Well-Known Member

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    I wish I can be a political activist at work. I don't think NFL players should get special treatment, although OJ would probably disagree...
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Bro, you sound triggered! No one put emphasis on it because the players were previously not allowed to make political statements at games like when the NFL did not allow the Cowboys to honor 9/11.
     
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    Russ103 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Millions of people are protesting even more peacefully by turning the channel.
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not true, these players have six days and 20 hours of their own time to express whatever views they want, but if they choose to disrespect and dishonor the flag and all who have fallen to defend it they should be shunned, fired, and otherwise disgraced as the scum they are...
     
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    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    He wasn't stripped of his and he has no position in the NFL.

    He has the right to protest. He just doesn't habe the right to be employed by the NFL. He was a shitty player.

    I don't care about Twitter. NFL players can do whatever they want. They aren't entitled to play for the NFL.

    Again you have the right to free speech and that wasn't taken away from anybody. You just don't have the right to keep your employment while protesting on the job. Especially if you aren't that good.
     
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    Where does our flag fit into this?
     
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    Which, by the way, doesn't bother me personally. I don't support the draft.
     

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