Why the Government hates Marijuana

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  1. marcella8151982

    marcella8151982 New Member

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    The reason the government hates marijuana is because they know that it :

    a) MONEY RELATED
    ...is not part of any pharmaceutical company that makes money so there is less circulation of money and... aw the rich people wont be richer. if they have the whole job producing argument: I think hemp labs and hemp distributing and hemp transporting and all that qualifies as new way of making more jobs.

    b) HELPS PEOPLE FUNCTION MORE
    people who usually smoke and drink are good people who have had a lot of bad stuff happen to them but they know what society is turning into and it makes those people turn to drinking because it is legal: but then people drive drunk and get caught, people die from drinking too: which makes me think that the government is just 'putting them in their place' so they won't cause civil unrest.

    usually it is the people who have had a humble and good child hood but they have seen what their government is doing (in their lives and jobs and relationships and laws that pertain to them) and have more of the will power to say something about it. They SEE the world in America for what it really is and that makes American leaders scared so they rather make sure they get locked up or pay fines so they stop doing it.

    I think that if these people were helped through departments of social and health services they would stop drinking if that's what they were into and they would find a way to live their lives happily (yes that includes having the right to smoke marijuana) but DSHS is not full of caring people: it is full of people who just treat you like a number. That makes people even more depressed and anxious and less able to sleep: good people.... I think marijuana treats anxiety and insomnia yea?



    Imagine if people were allowed to smoke: there would be less dui related accidents.

    People who oppose marijuana: low and behold: don't need marijuana. If they had medical reasons and they wouldn't want to kill their bodies with man-made products they too would seek marijuana.

    c) DRUG TRAFFICKING

    If they were really afraid of drugs coming in from Canada and Mexico then they should be OK with it being distributed here more openly.. then people would turn to trafficking less and less.:weed:

    I think it is an excuse for Americans to look at 'foreginers' as evil and taking a hold of our economic situation and living a fulfilled life more than another American and oh my gosh creating a life for another family that lives on this planet called EARTH. they are making Americans think there is little space and resources available for each and every person. But in reality the only reason that there are less resources and 'space' on this planet is because they center life on $$$ and not through helping each other out regardless of our color skin or where on the earth our parents decided to have us. I am not selfish: anyone else who thinks only Americans should focus on Americans and America is being selfish. there are lots of people in this world who need help and borders are made so people aren't scared what other people in other countries would do if they live next door. Honestly they are just people that are trying to live lives.

    I think unless you are placed in a it's a wonderful life scenario for years and live the life of a foreigner, then you have no say in the way other people on this planet should live.

    Just what I believe.



    THERE ARE WAY MORE REASONS THAT MAKE THE FEDERAL AND STATE GOVERNMENT GO ANTI MARIJUANA IM SURE YOU GUYS CAN CALL THEM OUT.
     
  2. devilsadvocate

    devilsadvocate New Member

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    like whoa man
     
  3. SiliconMagician

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    pfff.

    Always blame everything on "the man".

    Never could have anything to do with the fact that the VAST majority of Americans are, for whatever reason, against legalization.

    It was decided LOOOOOOOONG ago that drug use is not a "civil right"
     
  4. PeteZilla

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    Yet for some reason over 1/3 of Americans smoked marijuana at least once in their lives. People under 32 that numbers goes over 50% easily.

    http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1821697,00.html

    Pot is now an American past time to almost everyone under 32. Wait till the old people die, then it'll be legal.

    (*)(*)(*)(*) Americans can be such hypocrites.

    "Make it illegal!!! Puff puff pass Bob!! Stop being greedy! Hmm, that's some gooooood (*)(*)(*)(*). Anyone have any Doritos?"

    Also with your argument, you have no right to bad fast food, alcohol, etc, etc. It's a negative argument so just pointing that out to you. Get government out of our lives!!
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Who decided this .. certainly not the founding fathers.

    Alcohol is a drug, so is nicotine, both more harmfull than pot.

    What is the rational then for keeping something that such a large percentage of the population do, and that has no serious societal harm, illegal ?

    The vast majority of the raging masses have favored many stupid things over the years (be it burning witches, killing jews, or keeping slaves, or stoning people to death for adultery or sodobmy).

    Prohibition was brought in by religious leaders desiring to force their beliefs on others .. Pot was criminalized because it was competed with Cotton .. and of course the religious folk were against anything that was fun.

    Neither if these justifications holds water constitutionally or by rational folk.

    The deceitful scaremongering "reefer madness" contributed to changing the perception of otherwise impartial people. These lies and deceit continue to be promoted by schools and by the police.

    Civilized democracies that are not influenced by religious zeolots do not put people in jail for smoking pot.
     
  6. Thisoneguy

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    A) Logical argument, can't disagree but as I will mention in for C, people most likely will still go to their local dealer than a registered store.


    B) Marijuana doesn't help Anxiety and depression for everyone, as they say it is an upper and a downer, depends on the person. I know my friend who had a lot of depression from some stuff happening in his life and said when he smoked marijuana it made it worse. Same goes for anxiety as it can be an upper for some people and make their anxiety go off the wall.
    Not discrediting anything else it's good for, but it can make someone more depressed and more anxious.

    And DUI accidents might go down, but marijuana, like alcohol will effect someones driving. Now you'd probably have to smoke a lot more to be in any danger, but just personal experience with friends, smoking and driving is not a good substitute for smoking and driving. Same laws should apply, don't drive under the influence of anything, including marijuana.


    C) People will not turn to drug trafficking less and less. People will always go for the cheaper stuff if it is the same quality or if they don't care about the quality in general. I know there are some marijuana enthusiasts out there, like wine enthusiasts who want the best of the best, but most do not.
     
  7. Mozart

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    Why do Native Americans get a pass on it.

    Cause they've done it for spiritual purposes? A connection to nature?

    That applies to everyone else, right.

    They are not the only people who have smoked it for hundreds of yrs.

    They also get a pass on Peyote. Why?
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    86% favor legalization in this cnbc poll.

    http://www.cnbc.com/id/43510348
     
  9. Mozart

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    Does anyone really buy into the BS that all seized drugs are destroyed?

    Cause I can tell you that is a lie.

    I have friends who have purchased dope from State Troopers, and even a former Secret Serviceman.

    Chew on that.
     
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    Depression and drugs are not a good mix! Not even prescription medication IMHO helps with depression esp not cannabis!

    Cannabis like most drugs should be done when one is in a good frame of mind and just want to pass time in a alter state of mind. Like any drug including Alchohol, most run into trouble thinking it'll fix something that is wrong such as escaping reality.

    Government doesn't hate cannabis, but loves the job creation and the fun they have when they lie/cheat into taking control of everyday life. I seriously doubt any DEA Agent would walk away from his/her job on the agreement if they did drug use would stop. Its a job creation keeping cannabis and other relatively mild drugs illegal, all thinkig people know that since the beginning of man, man has sort out ways to use drugs for various of reasons.
     
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    Interesting thread.....lots of viewpoints.
     
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    Hey Marcella,

    They tried "Prohibition" and it didn't work, as a matter of fact, it made things far worse! Chicago is where Al Capone ran his Empire, and you know a lot about the violence there! Heck, Illinois is the only state, where it is almost impossible to own a firearm, but there are shootings nearly every day, by criminal gangs fighting over turf, and innocents fet in the way!

    Did you know that George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, and many others grew Hemp (They received tax credits from the King of England, before we declared our Independence) for making clothing, canvas (Comes from cannabis), and other materials. Even the seeds were used to make oils for elevators in the late 1800'd and early 1900's.

    Pat Buchanan suggests that it should be legalized, and I agree! First, it would take away the "Cash Cow" away from the Cartels, it would produce a whole new industry for us and create jobs! It would be regulated just like alcohol with tax revenues, and people wouldn't be going to dangerous areas and around criminal elements, who have very little regard for human life. The savings from not having to house, guard, and keep someone in jail would be enormous!

    The only problem about driving, while stoned is there is no ty[e of breath test, like they can do for alcohol.

    This whole idea is not that popular, and no candidate is going to run on that platform. In the 2008 Presidential race President Obama gave the states that had Medical Cannabis legalized, are now under attack by the IRS, and dispensaries are being closed left and right! One dispensary owner was featured on National Geographic (His name is Steve something), the name of the show was "Weed Wars". They only had 4 showings with the IRS closing him down, and the last words out of his mouth was "Obama Lied!" (That show was pulled off the air immediately! I have searched Direct TV and it is not there!

    The did another show about dispensaries in Colorado! They were having problems too! That show was also pulled!

    As bad as I hate to day it, Hope and Change is now It's time for a Change! We sure can't afford to keep going down the road we are on. Chrysler Motors has been sold to a company in Italy, and they are going to start making Jeeps in China.

    The auto bailout was the government's style of bankruptcy.

    God Bless Y'all!
     
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    Personally I've always felt that it's because if they admit that marijuana should be legal, many others should follow.

    ie: LSD is non addictive and remarkably non-toxic. Khat has virtually no negative consequences. Same for many other illegal drugs. If they legalize marijuana it'd be hypocritical not to also legalize these and others.


    They drew the line at alcohol and tobacco because there's always been a strong lobby for the two drugs, and most Americans feel it's their right to use them.
     
  14. jthorp24

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    Pot should be legal. I wish it was, I would use it to help with my sleep problems, fibromyalgia, and arthritis.

    I want to get medical marijuana... just don't know how to bring it up with my doctor.
     
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    What's the benefit in it being legal? Here if you get caught with under 10 grams (just under a half ounce) of marijuana you have to go to a cannabis information session, and there are some fines, but that's it. Additionally, the police hardly ever enforce the law and there are open houses everywhere.

    If you need to to help with your sleep problems then go buy some. Why does it matter if it's illegal? Are there crazy penalties where you live?
     
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    I don't know why I don't. I smoke it when somebody else offers... I've just never bought it before.
     
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    The old time hemp that was grown for rope, oil, etc. etc., was so low in THC that if you smoked a massive amount of it you wouldn`t get a buz. It wasn`t viable as a drug. I don`t know if there`s any truth in the theory that the original outlawing of MJ was motivated by big business, who wanted to crush competition to their synthetic products?
     
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    Is it an issue on the ballot up there? Hell, I'd just go ask my doctor just the same. Fellow I knew down here in Indiana got busted with pot, but he had a prescription from a medical group from IU. The cops and the judge were pissed when they had to return it.
    ...that is from the State where, it has been stated, pot will never be allowed.
    Right...the times they are a-changin' B. Dylan
     
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    Just ask your doctor if you can get a script. Sounds like you qualify. I am going to go for my Colorado card very soon, though after Tuesday it just might be legal for anyone over 21.
     
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    vast???? proof? and define "vast", please. I suspect the vast numbers you are addressing are from folks who don't care one way or another.For the most part, all LEO, medicine companies, paper producers, dealers, and growers are against it. Since they have the leverage, like most large corporations, they control the law.
    best to probably review your research.
     
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    "Not caring one way or another" is the same thing as supporting the current Status Quo.
     
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    So you're going to cast their vote for them, eh? Of course it'll be in favor of your ideologies.
    Such a philosophical stretch....Could it be just possible that they really just don't care because the feel this issue doesn't concern them or warrants this much attention because there may be other things of greater importance to them?
     

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