Why the Iranians Hate the US Government

He was on a diplomatic Mission. He was a guest of the Iraq Government. The Saud's had been working with him since the attack on their oil fields. They were meeting to continue discussion of de-escalation. The US was told of this and seemingly decided to assassinate him presumably because it did not want de-escalation. I have not studied Soleimani or this at depth but I have listened to people who know. People from the UN who knew him and people who worked for the Bush admin who attacked Iraq and knew him from that. He was working on the same side as the US when the US claimed Iran was an axes of evil. The only time when he was involved in any way in killing Americans was when there was fighting between Shia and Americans in Iraq and they asked for his help. He was a General belonging to a Sovereign State. He was in charge of a group fighting in Iraq who fought ISIS. You may remember that the Iraq army in general were to frightened and it was the Shia who did it. This group is now fully integrated into the Iraq army and any killing of them, which the US/Israel was doing last year is an attack against the soldiers of Iraq.

He was not a terrorist. Killing him was terrorism. I know that your strategy is to ignore anything that was said and come back with more while ignoring what is said so this is the only reply I will give you. He was not a terrorist. The only time he was involved in any killing of Americans was when he was at war with them. Indeed I heard that at one point he saved American lives by getting a group to stop attacking him.

Soleimani was a General, part of a Sovereign Government. To kill him was an act of war and a terrorist act.

I have also noticed people wondering why the US chose not to be an alley of Iran who fight terrorism but instead to choose to be an alley of the main funder of terrorism, Saudi Arabia.
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So, as second in command, did he know anything about the 140,000 missiles slipped past
UN inspectors into Lebanon?
You sound like a mouth piece of the Iranian Mullahs. It seems strange that he was on a
"diplomatic mission" in the dead of night, meeting with a man with a terrorist rap sheet of
his own.
Sure, nations can be at war at one stage and friends in another - look at Italy in the two
world wars.
The rot set in for the Americans during the Embassy Siege. It poisoned everything.
Sure, Soleimani was a figure of a sovereign government - one which weeks earlier shot
1500 of its own people. But this guy was a threat to other sovereign governments, including
meddling in Lebanon, exploiting Yemen, firing missiles at Saudi Arabia and Israel and so
on, depressing so on.

 

He most certainly was a terrorist.

When al-Qaeda were bugging out of Afghanistan after the start of the war there, Iran picked up some senior members, including members of Bin Ladens own family, oh and including Zarqawi. Remember him?

Qasem soleimani kept them in Iran for a while, housed, fed and equipped them. He then set them loose against his own Shia people of Iraq to create a sectarian bloodbath and to draw the Shia population of Iraq closer to Iran.

He was as legitimate a terrorist target as there ever was.

 

Sorry that is propaganda with no truth to it..but do go on eating up whatever you are served.

 

OK so the question is this. The US went on a 'war of terror' against terrorists apparently funded by Saudi Arabia. These terrorists hate more than anyone else in the world Shia. Due to this Iran was helping the US fight the Taliban in Afghanistan. Why did the US choose at that time to call Iran an axes of evil and to cosy in with Saudi Arabia. As a response to 9/11 this was insane.

 

Well, maybe Solimani was powerless to stop the massive arming of Hezbollah and the
smuggling of missiles upon to the Israeli border at the Golan?

Iran provides a range of support, including financial, training, and equipment, to terrorist
groups around the world – particularly Hezbollah.
This terror involved the Beirut bombing, US Embassy bombings in Lebanon, Argentina and
Kuwait, plane highjacking, Saudi petroleum attacks, assassination of Kurds, dissidents and
Jews etc..
https://www.unitedagainstnucleariran.com/state-sponsored-terrorism

THIS IS THE TRUTH. IT'S BEEN IN THE WORLD'S MEDIA FOR GENERATIONS.

 

He's the one who ordered the roadside bombs all over Iraq and Afghanistan that have killed our troops. He terrorized the Middle East.

 

We are talking about the war on terror. On this the US and Iran were on the same side. The Question is why did the US choose to go against Iran and side instead with the people who have been the main funders of those who attacked the US on 9/11.

You appear to be saying that to the US Israel is more important than the US. Hence the US should make friends with those who have a similar interest to Israel and ignore those who have a similar interest to itself. This is not a sane way of acting.

Quit the abuse. I simply stated reality.

 

I have no idea who did that or if it happened. I Seem to remember you were killing the people of Iraq - a country you went illegally to war with based on lies you fed your people. I only said what was said by someone who worked with Bush - that was that the only time he was involved in any attacks on Americans was when he was working with Shia who the US was attacking - in other words an act of war which was his job - unlike your tacky Presidents terrorism against him.

Not sure if this is the right one.
https://www.democracynow.org/2020/1/6/lawrence_wilkerson_iraq_war_soleimani_assassination

 

The proof that 9/11 was an inside job has been on the internet for years.
http://politicalforum.com/index.php...orted-9-11-terrorists.456423/#post-1066183060

Anyone who doesn't know that 9/11 was an inside job by now doesn't want to know.

 

Justify your claim - that violating the millennia old covenant against assassinating the leaders of other nations is a good thing.

 

Soleimani is not even close to being the biggest terrorist in the ME. The US and Saudi Arabia are far bigger terrorists in the ME - by any objective measure.

 

NOPE! WRONG, General Salami was a Terrorist and the World is a better place that Trump gave the order to blow him to pieces.

 

"Corporate Power" is irrelevant absent Big Government. I bet you know that.

 

Assassinating leaders will always be a better more humane approach than going to war.

 

There is a reason for the millennia old covenant against killing foreign leaders/dignitaries - and so on. Have you thought about what that might be ?

Second. If we were justified in killing a leader of Iran - for aiding one side of an insurgency (possibly aiding terrorists in the mix) due to US soldiers killed - how many of our leaders should Russia/Syria/Iran kill - for aiding an insurgency almost entirely composed of radical Islamist's/terrorists - which resulted in the death of many Russian/Syria/Iranian Soldiers - 500,000 people so far, war crimes, crimes against humanity.

Third - have you put any thought into how easy it is for a Nation State to assassinate people ?

Fourth - your initial presentation is a false dichotomy - as there are other options - and further - we were in a war - and it was being in that war that led to the actions of Soleimani.

 

Really? Well I was listening to people talking the other day about us being ruled by that and that that was who we gave our power to not least in selling up our Government so that we no longer have the structures which would allow the ability to get our Democracy back. That is what small government has achieved - never mind in the US the total falling apart of infrastructure..

Democracy worked when there were regulations keeping Corporate Power from having too much power - re monopolies and so on. This was given up re Regan/Thatcher and is what is causing the growing inequality and loss of a MC in the US - also leading to unprecedented drug and alcohol addiction and suicide among middle aged white working class men in the US - they say the reason why black people are not doing this is because they knew the American dream was not for them so they do not take it as a personal failing as the white WC do.

 

It is considered an act of War. It was an illegal act. America is becoming a Rogue state through its ignoring of International Law.

 

Just like we terrorized Nazi Germany.

 

Not at all like Nazi Germany. Mindless gibberish you speak.

 

Focus carefully: Assassinating leaders will always be a better more humane approach than going to war.

 

1. America has never been a "Democracy".
2. Because Democracy = tyranny
3. The USA has not had a "small government" since the Wilson administration and WW I
4. Corporations have no political power what power they do have is bought from government.
5. Monopolies are impossible to maintain w/o government protection.
6. Government regulations tend to protect Big Business from competition.
7. Black Americans and their community, culture and family have been targeted for destruction by the DP before the Civil War to the present.

Did I forget anything?

 

So do you agree with this statement: "Assassinating leaders will always be a better more humane approach than going to war."?

 

Yes I am aware of that. I also know it has gone to war with countries because they are not democracies.

If that is you belief then you must really oppose the actions of the US this past twenty years.

Whatever as you said you are not a democracy.

That shows total lack of knowledge about how Government runs. Clearly it would not matter as the US is a happy non democracy but for those countries who did want Democracy, Government serves the people. It serves them because it is their vote which allows them to rule. However once you get into the situation we have been in since Reagan/Thatcher where they have taken away all regulation, Governments serve the most wealthy few. That is the Corporate Giants and that is the situation now and has been for a long time. Some people call this a plutocracy some an Oligarchy. That is what the States is but it will not matter to you as you hate democracy and do not believe your voice should be heard.

Well I think before the idea was making sure they could never be formed. That certainly was what my childhood was about. Mention monopoly and all the adults went cracy. By removing the regulations the US/UK allow Monopolies to form again. The US used to have laws against them I think they were called Trust Laws. The US was well aware of the likelihood of states run by Corporate Power turning into fascism.

and this is what you want because this is what you have now. This is what Neo Liberalism with its sell off of Government to Privatisation was all about. In the environment we have now and have had since Reagan/Thatcher Governments gave up regulations to allow Big Business to be free from Competition. That is exactly correct except you have the wrong people who are doing that.

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Whenever I have a rough day at work, it's always comforting to see the anti-American crap here because then I know there are people in this world who have "issues" far worse than any I ever had.