Why the pro-lifers are wrong:

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by PopulistMadison, May 12, 2016.

  1. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I would hope that a woman who wants to terminate an accidental pregnancy would do so prior to 12 weeks.

    Regardless -an argument for personhood consists of more than an emotionally charged picture. A picture of a clinically dead person looks a whole lot like the picture that you posted - except a whole lot bigger. This does not change the fact that lacking significant brain function - despite the person still being alive - the plug is pulled and the dirt nap begins.
     
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    No, it isn't.
     
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    The reference to a dirtnap seems to indicate that is all one has to look forward to. Eat drink and be merry for tomorrow we die. Such is the value of human life apparently.
     
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    Giftedone said:
    I would hope that a woman who wants to terminate an accidental pregnancy would do so prior to 12 weeks.

    Regardless -an argument for personhood consists of more than an emotionally charged picture. A picture of a clinically dead person looks a whole lot like the picture that you posted - except a whole lot bigger. This does not change the fact that lacking significant brain function - despite the person still being alive - the plug is pulled and the dirt nap begins.




    Any reason you quoted him besides an attempt at an insult? Couldn't yo address what he actually posted?


    Here's comments from your side ...does he seem to value human life ?


    """I’ll pay for the coat hangers. There’s a greater chance they won’t get a chance to kill their babies again.""""

    """Give them coat hangers and let them start digging. That will help things."""
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Wrong!

    Abortion was LEGAL when the Constitution was implemented and the BoR specifically protected all rights that were NOT enumerated at the time which would have INCLUDED abortion.
     
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    The dirt nap is a common term for death. What is the value of life other than "eat, drink and be merry" - love friends, family memories and so on. How do you we define the value of life ?

    You did not address the point of the post - that without significant brain function - a living human is considered "dead"/without value according to the coroner's definition and the fact that this kind of blows a hole into your argument.
     
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    A dirt nap is a term used for those that have no hope after death. Some of us do and we can leave it at that.
     
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    Only because it's off-topic I suppose. I don't see how anybody can have faith in life after death. It seems like a kind of wishful insanity.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The topic has nothing to do with whether or not one believes in the afterlife. Respond to the topic and quit with the red herring.
     
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    No, it isn't.....it's a very old term for death...PERIOD.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No need to dwell on the specific meaning of "dirt nap". Such discussion was just a red herring/avoidance tactic because the poster had no response to the content of the post.
     
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    tell me how you can argue anything without facts, I mean why respond.
     
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    Just wondered, are the cells in your body alive or dead?

    As one swims past you, would you say a unicellular organism to be alive or dead?
     
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    Live cells are alive, a zygote is alive, a fetus is alive...

    What was your point?
     
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    lefties b like save illegal alien children, separating them from their mothers it torture....but separating the fetus from its mother by crushing its head or dismembering it is their right. Their hypocrisy on this is such a treat to laugh at. What complete BS artists.
     
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    OK, let's talk about BS, your post.

    Abortions don't crush fetuses heads or dismemberment UNLESS the woman's life is at risk...YOU may not care about women's lives but they do and THEY count.

    Righties LOVE the idea of caging CHILDREN, cutting funding to entities that aid CHILDREN like Welfare, WIC, SNAP, etc....but scream ""OH that fetus is Precious life.."""

    UNTIL IT'S BORN....
     

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