Why the right has no chance of winning the Culture Wars

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  1. Trixare4kids

    Trixare4kids Well-Known Member

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    If that were the case the O/P would have made his thread about managing the economy instead of the far leftists winning the CULTURE WAR.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Intolerance didn't
     
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    Pycckia Well-Known Member

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    Who populated the GULAG?⁵
     
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    Intolerance is just a slogan. Their culture war is to destroy the culture and replace it with ideology.
     
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    Pycckia Well-Known Member

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    Leftists well know the power of 'silly word games
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    See Newspeak.
     
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    Like what conservative onslaught? And who are "our people"?
    Making abortion a states rights issue? Lowering fuel prices, increasing employment, strengthening requirements that the able bodied work? Protect the rights of minors to not be political pawns in the gender game?
    We aren't all that bad.
    If I were you I'd be wondering who will be carrying your torch in the '24 election cuz Biden won't be running. The polls and party leaders won't walk off that cliff.
     
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    Most of these people are older. My mom, for example, thinks she’s a good person. When it comes to gay people, she’ll say she doesn’t have a problem with them, and she even prides herself on being tolerant and friendly towards some gay people. “ I have no problem with them,” she often says, but she is not tolerant of them having the same rights and privileges as her. She doesn’t want to see them being allowed to marry in this country, and she seems way less tolerant on transgender issues. I don’t understand the mentality. I constantly tell myself it’s her generation and I think her self assessment is ridiculous. Younger generations are way more open minded and believe in equal rights.
     
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    Your big problem is your depth of analysis is as deep as a drop of oil float on a puddle. Instead of spectrum to describe human beliefs and opinions you're espousing only two; those that agree with you and MAGA. That's Bidenism. Your ending question is specious and vapid.
     
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    Then they grow up.
     
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    the right have been on the wrong side of every social issue to come down the pike for decades, however RW media podcasters will re-write RW history and give facts to their followers to fill them with semi-factual diatribe
     
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    You think he's going to make the big announcement soon?
    That he won't be running ever again? (pun)
     
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    I actually agree with OP that the so called "Right" (which is actually ANYBODY not practically falling off the Left side of the political spectrum at this point) will lose the culture war. But not for the factually incorrect stances and supposed positions that are being falsely attributed to how the Right thinks.

    The Right will lose due to the apathy the Right tends to have for a variety of reasons. I've been saying this for years and deeming Conservatives as "Hank Hill" Republicans. Conservatives by and large are historically really good at complaining about things but not actually doing anything about it. They have a pocket full of excuses for everything ranging from:

    We are the adults in the room we don't act like that
    We have jobs and families we don't have time for that
    Well as long as it doesn't personally effect me then I don't care
    Trust the process
    It's in God's hands
    I don't want to be called some name that ends in -ist, or, -obia.
    etc, etc, etc

    The list could go on forever but the bottom line is that it boils down to pure apathy. Meanwhile the Left doesn't give a damn at all which is one of the things I've openly stated before that I admire about them. The Left will bite, kick, claw, scream, riot, punch, and burn the whole system to the ground to reach what they believe is the justifiable end. And oh yes they are damn good at it at this point. The apathy of the Right is used as a direct weapon by the Left to pretty much conquer the entire cultural sphere of this country in the span of a single decade.

    I keep hearing the Right claim they are the "silent majority", well whatever. That may be factually true but the pure number of you that there are means nothing if you rarely ever DO ANYTHING about ANYTHING the Left does.

    If you are truly the "silent majority" on the Right then explain to me how the MLB can remain in business after hosting a bunch of satanic drag nuns mocking your Christian religion and giving you the middle finger while laughing at you. Or how multiple businesses can remain in business with children's trans clothing when it pisses you off or hire "equality" departments at your favorite Christian fast food joint. The answer is simple, because they know the Right is apathetic and will do little more than just throw a fit about it but still go there anyway because yes you DO like chicken sandwiches more than you care about the fact that they mock you.

    Oh look Conservatives after decades finally banded together enough to actually hurt a company for pissing you off after what Bud Light did. Good for you. Now go watch your Disney movie and give money to the corporation that lets a dude put on a princess dress and walk your 5 year old daughter around the store because "you don't want to deprive your child of Disney because you loved Disney growing up".

    OP is right, Conservatives aren't winning a damn thing. Yeah you may have won a single battle but are still actively getting your faces pounded into the concrete by the Left on an hourly basis in regards to everything else in this country.
     
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    I am growing up and older, but I am not changing my stances and the younger generation is way more liberal on social issues than I am. It’s a losses by battle in the long run. We all just think the old people are ridiculous and kindly put up with their bs antics, but equal rights is non negotiable.
     
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    I generally agree with your statements, that the right will lose the culture (and other) wars. Simply because the side that wants power and will pull out all stops to achieve it will get it going against the side that says it just wants to be left alone. You can't beat the motivation of blue haired middle aged cat ladies as opposed to a mom raising kids. Right leaning families have other priorities, the left leaning shrikes have only one.
     
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    This is not about opinions. All people have the same Human Rights. Period! Anything else is not "opinion". It's intolerance. And the only thing we should never tolerate is intolerance.
     
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    Ridiculous in what way?
     
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    Old fashion thinking we can’t make sense of, but try to treat you with respect despite it all
     
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    What culture has the left ever maintained?

    Culture is maintained by the right.
    Culture is dismantled by the left.

    The left is currently not interested in building culture. They are interested in progressing around in circles dismantling any culture that gets in their way.

    This is especially true of different progressive cultures progressing in different circles.
     
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    Perhaps it is because you lack maturity and experience.
     
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    Did your sky daddy tell you this?
     
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    If I can respect people who I think have absurd beliefs, I am demonstrating maturity. Your culture values are a losing battle in the long run. You are not dealing with it very well.
     
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    the main goal of the left-as the late great moderate David Broder noted about 35 years ago, is balkanizing America into warring ethnic and cultural special interest groups. A common culture is anathema to the left wing
     
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    Sky daddies don’t recognize rights
     
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    That’s insane. I have never even heard of David Broder but he sounds like Alex Jones.
     
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    OMG, talk about ignorance of American political commentary. That guy was a towering figure from the late 60s through the 90s winning all sorts of awards. He was on Nixon's Enemies list and was a huge critic of the incompetent Carter administration. I met him several times-his son and I shared a suite at Yale one year. He was called the great moderate
     
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