Why was it great what Democrats did in 2017 yet wrong for Republicans in 2021?

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  1. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    thank you for demonstrating that insurrection and sedition occurred. in fact, the first federal conspiracy charge has been laid. Ooopsy stay tune for a few more down the line.
     
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    This has nothing to do with the insurrection that occurred AFTER the members of Congress had entered their objections. AGAIN not being a citizen who was educated in American civics you do not understand how my government works.

    The "sedition" being claimed here by Republican members of Congress who objected to several states slate of electors. Now I'm not going to sit here and educated you in our electoral system of choosing a President you can go search that. What I will repeat is the Democrats have done this everytime the winner was a Republican so if this is the case then they too engaged in sedition

    Again not understanding my government and the roll precedent sets with in it.
     
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    Pass the popcorn..........................:popcorn:
     
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    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Dodge noted.
     
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    turtleneck Mitch doesn't agree with you
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    no worries you skills as an educator seem rather limited as it is. Seems you are not listening. The truth is coming out and this was an organized concerted effort to stop a constitutional process. Perhaps you are unfamiliar with what kind of crime the president urging the vice president to break his own oath of office and siccing "HIS" people on him. You can move around in the blissful belief that what Donnie Peachs did was not the greatest presidential treachery in history.


    rinse and repeat, its all ya got and I bet you respond with it again to this.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No that's a chevy. and ignore the BIG LIE. nah that has no bearing on the sedition or insurrection charge. You appear to have a very simplistic single dimension general concept of the application of law. When it comes to conspiracies I tend to take a much broader view of the crime over a longer period of time and involving financing, strategy, content development, etc.

    The nazis and white nationalists are getting tracked down as we quibble. Your window is rapidly closing. So keep it up while you can. Donnie Peachs is toast.
     
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    Okay, enough of your smoke blowing....post the transcript or post the unedited video where Harris says IN NO UNCERTAIN TERMS EXACTLY WHAT YOU ACCUSE HER OF. The reading audience awaits.
     
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    That's the best you've got? Seriously? I've remember better retorts on the school yard!
    C'mon man! If you can't logically or factually refute/disprove what I posted, then stop wasting time and space with this lame smoke screen of yours.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    there is no other defense available to these sore losers. they can't bring themselves to admit the truth, yet. As the investigations, the criminal trials, the law suits, the tell alls, and a serious focus on fascist racist white nationalist domestic terrorism. Right now they are slithering back under their rocks, their MAGA cover completely blown.
     
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    I avoid listening to speeches but I don't know that I have ever heard Harris advocate violence but on the other hand, I don't think I have heard Trump do that either.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    you need to listen harder.

    If you are going to simply advance the simplistic grade school "show me the words where he said" argument, and ignore how humans communicate, inference, implication, similie, metaphor, phraseology, tone, tempo, repetition, facial cues.

    Lets not forget the central grievance of this sedition - the BIG LIE of stealing the election. Stealing his people's voice, denying them their vision and their dear leader, vilifying dems, rinos, HIS VICE PRESIDENT, constantly declaring victor in the face of glaring humiliating defeat.

    Its going to be wild. he was right. That was his plan all along.

    He humiliated himself this morning as he picked up his ball and ran home.
     
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    Chevy noted then. The law was presented to you and you were asked to cite from the law where he violated it and you chevied.
     
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    And so what? You're not debating him your debating me. And it is the Democrats who have declared objecting to a states slate of electors is sedition.
     
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    that sounds like some weak media trope-o-the-day instead of anything verifiable, got any real meat to grill? Mitch is hungry!
     
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    Bullshit. People say what they say and then we get spin masters to turn it to what they want it to be. Trump never said he'd like to take Biden out behind the barn and kick his ass. He didn't work to raise bail money so his army of rioters could get back on the streets and keep on with the business of looting and burning, mostly peacefully. Now there was some fine wordsmithing, standing with fires raging in the background and claiming we were seeing peaceful demonstrations. This hatred and it's divisive effect is the product of the last 4 years of Democrat propaganda spoon fed to their followers by their robot media. It's disgusting and shameful.
     
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    Look at you and your staggering inability to meet the challenge put to you.
    I accept your concession.
     
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    :lol:
    Here's the section of US code that deals with sedition, insurrection, treason, etc:
    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/part-I/chapter-115\
    Pick one.
    Cite a source, copy/paste the text of what Trump said, and them demonstrate how it violates the law you picked.

    Oh wait. You already demonstrated you know you cannot do any such thing.

    Apologies.
     
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    Enough of your smoke blowing....post the transcript or post the unedited video where Trump says IN NO UNCERTAIN TERMS EXACTLY WHAT YOU ACCUSE HIM OF.
    The reading audience awaits.
     
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    Hmm.. Well..... Hillary colluded to force obama to illegally authorize spying on her political candidate. Facts. Call that sedition if you will. I do.
     
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    spoke like a true black knight.
     
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    would you like to review divisive clans among politicians? how far back would you like to begin, 1960?
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Excuse me, are you utterly unaware of how humans communicate? Are you unaware of the PROCESS of incitement that took place over a period of months? Are you unaware of the Big Lie?

    this infantile "show me the exact words" when it was an orchestrated program of incitement predicated on a Big Lie and pandering to outraged butthurt and ignorant fear of evil socialists destroying America before it can become great again.


    It seems you aren't familiar with the concept of "mob mentality", and how this empathic phenomenon of human nature subsumes inhibitions and prompts emotionally motivated previously individually unacceptable or unthinkable actions. And guess what? there are literally thousands of sources of knowlege on the subject even handy how to guides. Imagine skilled politicians and preachers actually using these time honed techniquest to motivate their faithful.

    Its okay. I get there are only so many layers of complexity before it all becomes too much to grasp. Just be aware your lame "show me the words" won't hold up in court.
     
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    I am accusing him of incitement to insurrection. EXACT WORDS is not a defense in this case.

    there was a conspiracy afoot either using Trump as the "useful idiot" or with his aforeknowledge. The lowlifes are being rounded up as we quibble.
    Preliminary reports implicate a number of republican politicians in aiding and abetting the rioters.
    What do you think the investigation will uncover and who knew what when? How high do you think it will go?
     
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    Illegal? lying about dealings with russians to the american people during a political campaign and the feds KNOW you are lying would certainly not be suspicious in trumpland, but in America, the spooks were all over it.

    But keep trying. I'm sure you'll eventually get over it.
     

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