Why was it great what Democrats did in 2017 yet wrong for Republicans in 2021?

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  1. kungfuliberal

    kungfuliberal Well-Known Member

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    your point?
     
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    Distraff Well-Known Member

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    I'm all for a fair fact-based investigation of all votes. As long is this is done in a bipartisan way, and claims are only based on solid evidence, not internet heresay.
     
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    Starcastle Well-Known Member

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    It was a joke that the poster mentioned got but you did not.

    I might be the only real liberal here so nice try with the right winger. Your views are far closer to the third reich.
     
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    Starcastle Well-Known Member

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    Hilarious that libos think that slander is a bad thing when that is all they know. How about another 10 threads about Russia collusion?

    Would not want to say negative things against the most powerful people on earth. They are victims now?
     
  5. kungfuliberal

    kungfuliberal Well-Known Member

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    The only "joke" here is you trying to play off your obvious right wing prejudice and lame propaganda parroting. C'mon man, it's a printed medium...all the reader has to do is back track the chronology of the posts to see the sheer intellectual dishonesty of what you try to pull here. Trump tactics only work for the die hards, no one else.

    But Hope springs eternal....For your edcuation: Kung fu | martial art | Britannica
     
  6. kungfuliberal

    kungfuliberal Well-Known Member

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    Translation: The GOP in charge of the Ukranian hearings stated PRIOR to the hearings that they would not entertain even an article of impeachment against Dump.

    Then you have McConnell delaying the Capitol insurrection hearings until after Biden's innauguration, only to turn around and say that although Dump was guilty, you can't impeach because he's no longer president.

    A kangaroo/fixed court in anyone's elses eyes but Trumpers, who have blinders on.
     
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    Le Chef Well-Known Member Donor

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    Come on.
     
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    Starcastle Well-Known Member

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    Trump's phone call to the Ukrainian president and the attempt to impeach him had not one damn thing to do with Russia collusion.

    The Ukraine was raped by Russia AFTER Obama colluded with Putin's main man on video.


    There was the time when Eric Trump got over $3M from Russian oligarch Elena Baturina right? Oh wait that was Hunter Biden.

    Then there was the Steele dossier that the Trump campaign purchased from Russia right? Ops Clinton campaign.

    Then there was the time Trump demanded that a Ukrainian prosecutor got fired. Wrong again that was Joe Biden.


    Then there was the million dollar a year no show job that Don Jr had for Burisma right? No Hunter again.

    Is that what you mean by blinders? You libocrats pretended you were obsessed with Russia so why aren't Biden and Obama being prosecuted right now for treason?
     
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    Starcastle Well-Known Member

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    Seriously why don't you pretend patriots care that Ukraine got raped by Russia under Obama's watch? There he is on video compromising NATO and colluding with Russia. Don't care? Wait until after I'm reelected wink wink? The subject was only NATO missile defense. Nothing important right?



    2 years later Russia is in the Ukraine. That same year, 2014 was also when Hunter Biden's investment firm received a $3.5M wire payment from the richest woman in Russia. Coincidence?

    Where was Brennan and Clapper when Putin was helping himself to the Crimea?

    Come on your fake phony chest thumping patriots!
     
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  10. kungfuliberal

    kungfuliberal Well-Known Member

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    The Proud Boys were indeed present and accounted for at the Jan. 6th insurrection. So again, what was your point in stating a moot observation that they didn't trash Clinton's or Biden's innaugeration/property?
     
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    :sleepy: Oh, I'm sorry....it's just that GOP flunkies, sycophants and pundits have regurgitated this goal post moving crap so many times that it's become boring.

    Please explain to the reading audience EXACTLY HOW THIS CHANGES THE FACTS THAT I PREVIOUSLY POSTED ABOVE. If you can't, that means you accept a corrupt court system that renders a verdict BEFORE SAID EVIDENCE IS PRESENTED. That happens in fascist countries, in despotic regimes and current communist countries.
     
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    The point is that all groups can do bad things that imperil the peaceful transfer of power after an election. This was quoted for you above:

    WASHINGTON (AP) — Protesters set fires and hurled bricks in a daylong assault on the city hosting Donald Trump’s inauguration, registering their rage against the new president in a series of clashes that led to more than 200 arrests. Police used pepper spray and stun grenades to prevent the chaos from spilling into Trump’s formal procession and evening balls.

    The fact that Republicans did not similarly "register their rage" at Biden is only "moot"(I suspect you mean "irrelevant") if you think the only bad thing that ever happened took place on Jan.6 : The entire thread is about the hypocrisy of liberals pretending that Democrats are good and Republicans are bad.

    Neither generalization is true, so spare us all the indignation.

     
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    Electronic voting took that option away from us. He who controls the electronics controls the election, and those who did attempt to investigate the electronics were persecuted for doing so. That alone tells us where the fraud is; it's in the electronics, and it's perpetrated by those who control the electronics.
     
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    I spare nothing for folks excusing an insurrection peppered with white supremacists and neo-fascists that stormed the NATIONS capitol bldg. with intent to accost senators, resulting in a dead cop and several others injured, and stop the legal certification of an elected President.

    Yeah, the protest against Dump's election was wrong, as there was no case of election fraud (out side of some voter suppression and gerry mandering in some states). Arrests were made, but no one was killed, no state or federal bldg. was invaded and damaged, and neither Clinton or Biden had screamed "fix" and "hoax" nearly a year prior to said elections, egging on insurrectionists or other violence against contrary opinion voters.

    So spare us your false equivolency.
     
  15. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Me too which is why I asked this elementary question and repeat it now.

    So I would love to hear the excuse why it was okay for Democrats but wrong for Republicans to do the same things?
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    it has been many years since the congress voted in a bipartisan fashion. Probably when Kennedy was president.
     
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    It was answered. Liberals don't do it. You just pretend they do, to excuse the unprecedented treason and violence of your own side.

    Only your side stages violent fascist coups. Own it.
     
  18. kungfuliberal

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    Baloney!

    Posts #84, #142 and #143.

    You just ignore what you can't logically or factually refute.
     
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    You asked what "the point" was. I have explained it as best as I am able. Look at the OP. That's what we are trying to debate.
     
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    He did. The problem you have is that your position is indefensible.
     
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    When Trump won the 2016 election Democrats did not storm the Capitol building. That is the difference.
     
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    “Hypocrisy is an homage that vice pays to virtue.”
    ~ François Duc de La Rochefoucauld
    (1613-1680) French author
    Reflections; or Sentences and Moral Maxims (1665–1678), Maxim 218

    If those responsible for the slave trade could return to life they should apologize to white people. The slave trade was America's original sin. For it we will be punished eternally. Southern whites should have grown their own cotton and tobacco.
     
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    No, they just spent the next 3 years or so squandering millions lying about Trump, including their party leader calling him "illegitimate". Much more inflammatory behavior than Trump pointing out that the guy that lost most bellwether counties and couldn't get anyone to attend his rallies did not "win" the election. https://thedailyhatch.org/2020/11/25/biden-won-despite-losing-most-bellwether-counties/ Thank you Time for kinda owning up to that.
     
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    Check this book out.

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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They had million person marches and rallies screaming they wanted to blow up the White house and calling Trump every vile name imaginable.
     
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