WHY WON'T D. HOGG DEBATE ANYONE?

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  1. Grau

    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    CNN's media darling & Gun Control lobby hireling, David Hogg, is clearly comfortable demonizing the NRA, gun owners & supporters of the 2nd Amendment when he is unchallenged & among friendly crowds.
    What attention craving teenager wouldn't enjoy an unopposed national spotlight to spout their puerile demands?
    If there were any validity to his proposals, one would think that he would welcome an opportunity to demonstrate why additional gun control is really the panacea to the nation's gun related violence.
    Why then has Hogg refused multiple requests for a debate from various individuals including his peer & schoolmate, Kyle Kashuv?


    "Anti-Gun Activist David Hogg Refuses to Debate Pro-Gun Parkland Student"
    http://truthfeednews.com/anti-gun-activist-david-hogg-refuses-to-debate-pro-gun-parkland-student/

    EXCERPTS "Is anti-gun “student activist” David Hogg scared?

    He’s refusing to agree to a debate with pro-gun Parkland survivor Kyle Kashuv, who challenged the teen, promising any proceeds would benefit charity.

    Why won’t Hogg, who is the new CNN “golden boy” agree?

    On Saturday, Kyle Kashuv, a conservative student from Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, challenged David Hogg, a far-left student from the school, to a debate over the subject of gun control.

    Kashuv even sent Hogg a direct message to make sure that he saw his challenge, but has not yet received a response."CONTINUED
     
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    He has advisors, script writers, and they tell him what to do.

    Those people do not want a mere child debating seasoned experienced adults.
     
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    Same reason the anti-gun left won't legitimately debate anyone here - they know they can only argue with fallacious appeals to emotion, ignorance and/or dishonesty.
     
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    Because he would get skewered.
     
  5. Grau

    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    While I agree that those who are funding him (1) control his schedule, the annoying little puppet won't even debate his schoolmate, Kyle Kashuv.


    (1) "Soros, Bloomberg & Planned Parenthood Funding David Hogg’s Anti-Gun Student Protests"
    http://thewashingtonstandard.com/soros-bloomberg-planned-parenthood-funding-david-hoggs-anti-gun-student-protests/

    EXCERPT "Did I not tell you? I told you to give it time and we would discover the underbelly of David Hogg‘s anti-gun protests and the money behind him, and lo and behold, here it is. The names are not secret. They are at the forefront in attacking anything and everything that is American and American government.

    From Michael Bloomberg and the various lying organizations he sponsors, such as Everytown and Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America, to George Soros to baby murdering Planned Parenthood, the money pouring into Hogg to fund his Communist protest is not shocking in the least. It has been expected."CONTINUED
     
  6. Galileo

    Galileo Well-Known Member

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    You should be more concerned about how people on your own side are behaving.

    "A fake hostage call resulted in a team of armed police being sent to Parkland shooting survivor David Hogg's house....

    "The dangerous swatting episode follows months of right-wing media harassment faced by Hogg and other Parkland shooting survivors, who became prime targets of ludicrous conspiracy theories and ad-hominem attacks after speaking out against America’s endemic gun violence problem. Fox personalities used airtime to attack Hogg and other survivors for targeting gun manufacturers with activism, and Fox host Laura Ingraham taunted and mocked Hogg online, leading to an advertiser boycott that Fox News has yet to recover from. Hogg even drew the ire of Mike Adams, a far-right conspiracy theorist, who launched the absurdly-named HoggWatch.com, which is dedicated to following Parkland survivors’ every move and pushing fake stories about them."
    https://www.mediamatters.org/video/...-shooting-survivor-david-hogg-targeted/220380
     
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    How do you know who called SWAT? The police would like to have this information.
     
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    It's part of a pattern of immature people on your side harassing Hogg.
     
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    Whos the party of antifa again?
     
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    So just a guess on your part then?
     
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    Unless there is actual evidence that would prove conclusively who is responsible for the prank call, it cannot be said for certain who is the guilty party. Therefore there is no evidence, none whatsoever, that the person who made the call aligns with conservative political ideologies.

    In case it was not noticed by yourself, there has been an explosion of fake hate crimes being reported in the united states in recent years, where the supposed victim was discovered to have faked the incident themselves.

    http://www.fakehatecrimes.org/
     
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    "The dangerous swatting episode follows months of right-wing media harassment faced by Hogg and other Parkland shooting survivors,"......

    No such thing as a "SWATTING" episode.
     
  13. Grau

    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Since I took an oath, long ago, to protect & defend the Constitution against "...all enemies, foreign & domestic...", & lost friends in a distant hell hole who took the same oath, I have little pity for the most strident domestic enemies of any part of our Bill of Rights.

    Briefly put, far better young Americans have made the ultimate sacrifice trying to protect what Hogg & his well funded, scripted & attention hungry children are trying to destroy.

    When "Attention" Hogg et al enlisted to be enemies of of the 2nd Amendment using the most nefarious bullying tactics available, he/they deserve all the legal retaliation guaranteed by the 1st Amendment they get.

    If there were any substance to Hogg's scripted position, the diminutive demagogue would debate his classmate & fellow "survivor" or others who have offered to do so.

    Why won't he?
     
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    The preamble to the US Constitution speaks of domestic tranquility. You should be ashamed of yourself for supporting policies that lead to the opposite of tranquility.

    Falsely reporting a hostage situation to the police is not legal.

    Your side has not been fair to him and has continually harassed him. Now you expect him to sit down and engage in a civil debate? I don't know what he is thinking, but I question what a debate would accomplish. It's not like gun apologists would suddenly start lining up to support gun control if he won the debate.
     
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    What are his public statements and opinions supposed to accomplish? What did he mean when he tweeted "Can we please not debate this as Democrats and Republicans but discuss this as Americans?"

    What will it take to accomplish this goal: "To those politicians who say change will not come, I say we will not stop until every man, every woman, every child, and every American can live without fear of gun violence, to that I say, 'No more'!"
     
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    At this point its even money Hogg called it in or had it called in himself
     
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    nice diversion-how do you know it was pro gun people? it might be someone from the gun banner movement who is upset that this little megalomaniac is getting more press and face time. Hogg's an ******* and an enemy to the rights of Americans. He's scum
     
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    "It's merely a prank and it's an attempt to distract from what we're trying to do which is save children's lives."


    Who would have such an agenda?
     
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    He prolly did it to himself. The little attention whore was dropping out of the limelight. Still is. He'll be jerkin it naked in public in SanFran before you know it.
     
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    As over the top he is with his hyperbole and insults, he sure seems sedate for something so serious by dismissing it as "merely a prank". If he had any idea it was a pro gun person, he'd be mouthing off about it.
     
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    I NEVER see Hogg on CNN. He was on a few times right afterwards but only a few times. Not since. But I do see people like you posting about him all the time. You give him more publicity than any news shows I see, x 50.

    So you are anti-gun I assume, since you like promoting Hogg so much...
     
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  22. Grau

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    Re:
    Please tell me more specifically it is for what I should be ashamed.
    I'm far from alone in seeing nothing shameful by supporting our Bill of Rights.....all of them.

    Re:
    Again, by "Your side..." you must mean a few irrational & criminally disposed individuals similar to the gang of gun ban extremists that vandalized NRA official, Chris Cox's home & terrorized his 3 & 5 year old children(1)

    Face it. This is a heated issue and there are extremists on both sides of the issue.
    Hogg knew that when he enlisted to be a puppet for the same old gun ban lobbies that have worked to eviscerate the 2nd Amendment for decades.
    Hogg sought all the attention he has received.

    The reason that America's gun ban movement's puppet refuses to debate classmate Kyle Kashuv is for the simple fact that their cause is a grossly flawed, unconstitutional & disingenuous diversion from taking genuinely effective but costly measures like upgrading our security, enforcing existing laws & providing for more extensive access to health / mental health care especially for the younger, "shooter generation".

    Genuine solutions to complex problems are neither simple, cheap nor as easy as passing more laws as the gun ban groups seem oblivious to the straightforward reality that criminals & the violently mentally ill do not obey laws.



    (1) Professor convicted of vandalizing NRA lobbyist's home with fake blood
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/...home.../de964c0e-5d11-11e8-a4a4-c070ef53f315_s...
     
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    Apparently, you have not been paying attention:

    1. "CNN Puppet David Hogg Releases A New Plan For Gun Control"
    https://squawker.org/culture-wars/cnn-puppet-david-hogg-releases-a-new-plan-for-gun-control/
    EXCERPT "From the very beginning, his CNN scripted speeches told him to push the gun control narrative, which he did without question."CONTINUED


    2. "CNN exploits dead and traumatized children as puppets to push radical left-wing agenda"
    https://www.intellihub.com/cnn-expl...-as-puppets-to-push-radical-left-wing-agenda/

    EXCERPT "The backlash against CNN is growing, even as the discredited fake news network desperately coaches high school children to parrot left-wing talking points designed to destroy the Second Amendment and disarm law-abiding Americans. “The latest tactic of the ‘mob rule’ Left is to puppeteer high school students, parading them in front of cameras as ‘experts’ on gun control and the Second Amendment, all while rehearsing scripted talking points with them to make sure they stay on point,” I reminded readers yesterday at NewsTarget.com."CONTINUED
     
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    Curious how it occurs just before an announced bus tour by Hogg and Associates....
     
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    Kyle is a lot lot smarter than Boss's Hogg's son, he's right to be scared of the far far superior opponent and it's best he stays in his "Safe space"
     
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