Why would a CIVILISED nation permit large scale animal abuse, suffering, and killing?

Not because its about religion.

They wont touch it because the Zionists will keep it off their radar as long as they possibly can.

Zionism is subversive.

 

It is parasitical.

I've used nature to explain the parasite/host relationship.

The former needs the latter, the former also weakens the latter, v much.

Up to maybe older Americans to reflect, and try to recall if maybe their America was a better place, before rampant Zionism hosted on it.

Was the media more independent?

Did American tend to go to war less, I mean, wars of aggression and occupation?

Was there ever a greater sense of community and caring about others?

Did you feel genuine and deserved pride, to be American?

Was there a time when money was not taken, without consulation, and simply GIVEN to a foreign state, who then had the temerity to call themselves 'self sustainable'..? What a sick scam it is.

Believe it or not America, Muslims were around along time before you ever reached these shores, as immigrants from Europe.

Believe it or not American, Mulims were never really much of a bother or concern to Americans for most of it's history, UNTIL....the Zionist influence and their hateful propaganda machine, really reached it's climax.

America....accept it or not, it is what it is....Jews even throw money at org that are there to deny that Jews have enslaved America into supporting sin...on a massive scale. Directly, or indirectly, I would be prepared to bet that Zionist Jews, since 1948, have been responsible for the loss of more avoidable death, than Jews executed on purpose, in WW2.

Don't stop at counting the murder of Palestinians and Lebanse, oh no no no..

Who do you think REALLY pushes the buttons, when the US placed sanctions on nations like Iraq, and sanctions can often lead to death on a grand scale. If you can fortell that your actions will lead to this, then it is a method of mass killing, is it not?

Who do you really think create the script for the invasion, occupation and satanic possession of Iraq? Not Bush. Not even Cheney. They were just paid to push it through. How many innocent lives did that account for, and still is?

Libya? Who do you think wanted control of their gold, their central bank, and were prepared to use mercenaries to achieve it? Not the 'rebels'.

And now Iran.

The vampires in Israel will not stop bloody WHINING, until they finally badget the US slave into doing what it's massa wants....to shed more blood...in Iran.

And those are just the obvious deaths that have Zion fingerprints on them.

If we added it all up, it would be millions, one way or another.

That is another reason whey they keep on going on and on about the holocaust.

Takes people's eye off the genocide, theft, thuggery, and mass murders that they have engaged in.

Time to stop being browbeaten by years of being made to feel bad about the holocaust, and time to start calling things for how they are.

Jack

 

I'm a full fledged LEFTIST when it comes to animals. No, I'm not a member of PETA, but I always do whatever I can to get the state and local governments to regulate, or better yet outlaw, puppy mills (that supply pet stores with puppies). People that buy puppies at pet stores need to take a tour of what the momma dogs' lives like and what they have to endure in these sorry-ass places. The ******* jerks that run them are like the investment bankers - they don't give a sh*t about ANYTHING except for money. Anyone that thinks that markets regulate themselves and corporations will do what's right without any authoritarian oversight should also take a tour and see how well that particular industry is doing at self regulation. I'm normally beetching about the growth of government in our lives and commerce, yet I'm forever amazed and frustrated at just how resistant state governments are to reforming and enforcing humane animal laws.

I would include some photos but I can't look at them.

 

It transcends such things.

Animal sacrifice.

In NYC?

In 2012?

While Native Americans cannot prescribe Peyote for spiritual use.

No doubt who calls the shots, in the US.

 

Yep - I understand and agree completely. And I apologize for posting off that topic. Religious freedom doesn't include the torture and death of animals - or at least, it shouldn't. I have NO RESPECT for any institution that tortures animals just because of their stupid beliefs.

 

I have a strong moral opposition to supporting PETA on anything just based on principle. It would appear that you have a similar stance on Jews. Do you still not consider yourself anti-semitic?

 

It one helluva long way from outlawing the ritualistic torture and killing of animals to putting your life in jeopardy. What? You think you might someday be the victim of ritualistic killing as a result outlawing the thing and stopping it???

 

No.

If there were a similar number of anyone, carrying out public torture of animals, in a supposedly civlised city, I would find that objectionable, all the same, esp if it were protected in law.

Can you show that?

By anyone but from the Jews that you will do ANYTHING to excuse, from anything.

Noted.

 

surely, thou doth protest too much. PETA: because we have nothing better to whine about.

illegalizing this is ridiculous and sets a bad precedent. No people are being harmed, it's just something that you don't like. I don't like it either. Shall we stop people from practicing their own faith when they're not harming people, but doing something we don't like? To me, there is no more justification in this than illegalizing sodomy - just because we don't like it. Well, some of us

 

Jack. Good. Now I can put a name on my previously empty list of racists I know.

 

Note that you do not condemn satanic abuse of animals.

Noted.

 

Apparently the civilised human race disagree, and believe it sets a good one.

But you go on making excuses for sadism.

Telling...

 

It's not just because WE don't like it, pal. There's other life forma involved here that definitely are bothered by it. I know the Hebrew and Christian version of God doesn't give a dam about animals but if he even exists, he apparently wired our brains to be bothered about their torture and needless death. Well, some of us. Outlawing this is hardly squashing your fuking religion. And besides that, only a bunch of mindless dicks would believe that their stupid god wanted them to commit such acts in the first place.

 

Don't forget, not that it should make a difference, to a normal human being, but it is worth repeating, these Jews are not obligated to engage in this mass horror.

They can pay a money donation instead.

Evidently, there appear to be many that engage in this satan like ritual, out of choice then, not compulsion.

Between this and the large scale sex abuse scandal and cover up, by Hassidic Jews, what is Brooklyn NYC about?

Really?

That just sounds less like 'freedoms', and more like a modern day Soddom and Gomorrah.

And then we have, again in the same city, this banned almost everywhere insane way of mutilating kids.

How can this be anything other than totally sickening?

Jack

 

I'm taking issue with the word 'many.' I don't believe that it's true that many Jews practice this. If it were a common Jewish practice, I would have run across it before this. I've never even heard of it.

 

Well, maybe there are reasons you haven't, doesn't mean to say it is not clearly done on a large scale.

Maybe you do not live near Brooklyn. Maybe it is not reported in your media. Maybe, FOR SOME REASON, few challenge it. Who knows. Be it ten or ten thousand, it matters not.

It is what it is.

Just sadistic and evil.

Given special rights, just as they intended.

No one else would get away with such things.