Wifi security at public places??

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It turns out hackers hang out at places with public Wifi, set up a fake identical Wifi, and use it to copy all passwords entered into the system.

    Looks like we should NEVER access bank or other sensitive websites through Wifi, unless at home at a saved encrypted network.

    But if we log on to a hackers Wifi network, can they go through our cookies and find our SAVED passwords?

    this would mean that going to email even without having to re-enter passwords and screen names, woul;d also be out.

    but if they could even read our saved screen names and passwords without us even going to those website, than logging into Wifi at public places would be over.

    how dangerous is it?

    can they do this? or do we really only have to worry about websites where we physically type in the passwords?
     
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    EHS leads to schoolgirl's suicide...
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    Schoolgirl found hanging from tree after suffering from 'rare allergic reaction to WiFi'
    30 Nov 2015 - A teenage schoolgirl was found hanging from a tree after she began suffering from an allergic reaction to WiFi, an inquest has heard.
    Tragic Jenny Fry was left with crippling headaches, tiredness and bladder problems brought on by electro-hypersensitivity (EHS). An inquest into her death heard how the 15-year-old's mum Debra said her symptoms were caused because she was allergic to wireless internet connections at her school. Jenny's body was found hanging from a tree at Brooke Woods, near her home in Chadlington, Oxon., at 4.20pm on June 11. Earlier in the day she had texted a friend telling her she was not going to school that day.

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    Tragic: Jenny suffered from a rare allergy​

    Her mum Debra and dad Charles Newman told the inquest they believed their daughter was made ill because of WiFi. Although they had taken the WiFi out of their own home, it was still used in Chipping Norton School, Oxon., where she was a pupil. Mrs Fry told Oxfordshire Coroners' Court Jenny had started showing signs of EHS in November 2012. She said: "Jenny was getting ill and so was I. I did some research and found how dangerous WiFi could be so I had it taken out of the house. "Both Jenny and I were fine at home but Jenny continued to be ill at school in certain areas.

    "She was receiving lots of detentions, not for being disruptive in class or misbehaving, but often because she used to take herself out of the classroom to find another where she was able to work. She took her schoolwork seriously. "I took lots of information into school to show the headteacher, Simon Duffy, but he said there was equally the same information available claiming WiFi was safe. "I also had a heated exchange with teachers telling them Jenny was allergic to WiFi and that it made no sense making her take detentions in rooms that were making her ill.

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    I have a 4 year degree in InfoSec, but I have not completely kept up on the current trends. You are right to never access your bank account on a public wifi. Typically, any data sent on a network is at some level at risk of being compromised by hackers connected to the network. I will not get into the specifics, but the average Joe would be surprised by what info can be intercepted on a public network with a laptop and some network scanning software.

    Personally I do not have a problem with logging into Face Book, youtube or even the forums as no financial data is at risk of exposure and if I get hacked then I can do a password reset. I would be leery of logging onto a paid service though as there is a risk that sensitive data could potentialy be compromised. There are apps that you can use to better secure your date like VPNs and such. The following link has a very good tip, go to settings and "forget network" as this ensures that you are off the network and close the door to hackers when you are done web surfing, else your device will automaticaly connect each time you are near the signal. Do a search for "open wifi security" or "wifi hotspot security".

    http://www.cnet.com/how-to/tips-to-stay-safe-on-public-wi-fi/

    As a general rule, only visit sites and use apps that you would not be horribly disappointed if they were hacked or could easily recover the hacked account. Perhaps I am a bit over cautious, but my caution comes from knowing what a truly talented hacker can do.
     
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    was that a internet diagnosis or a actual doctor?

    as for the topic..... VPN

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    The "electro-sensitive" people are nut jobs, up there with anti-vaxers. There is no such thing. They don't seem to realize that after shutting off the wifi, they're still bombarded with EMF from countless other sources. It is possible that some of these people are suffering from legitimate physical illnesses/maladies, but it certainly isn't caused by their wireless devices.
     
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    great advice.

    never access sites on a public network, that you wouldn't want to be hacked.
     
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    I have to agree, sounds bogus to me
     
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    Granny gonna get our wi-fi set up so's she can post from the grave...
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    Cemeteries in Moscow to offer free Wi-Fi in 2016
    Dec. 10, 2015 -- Moscow's government has decided to provide free Wi-Fi services at certain funeral homes in 2016.
     
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    Using Wi-FI in public places can indeed be dangerous and the sessions can be hijacked pretty damn easily, so don't use anything important like your bank account on public connections.
     
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    " ...A number of studies have been conducted where EHS individuals were exposed to EMF similar to those that they attributed to the cause of their symptoms. The aim was to elicit symptoms under controlled laboratory conditions.

    The majority of studies indicate that EHS individuals cannot detect EMF exposure any more accurately than non-EHS individuals. Well controlled and conducted double-blind studies have shown that symptoms were not correlated with EMF exposure...."

    http://www.who.int/peh-emf/publications/facts/fs296/en/
     
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    This topic has been covered in this youtube
    [video=youtube;-enHfpHMBo4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-enHfpHMBo4[/video]
     
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    Always use a strong Firewall and a VPN when on a public Wi-Fi.
     
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    VPNs are a hassle and cost money, though. One could avoid doing anything too sensitive, and administrators could make sure that their security systems do not allow for someone to lift passwords and use them to get into people's accounts successfully. Two-factor authentication is one important way of accomplishing this.
     
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    Not really, no. Nowadays VPNs could go at prices as low as $1-2 per month.

    And Two Step won't help against a keylogger or a RAT.
     
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    It does help against keyloggers, since you are presumably not creating your account while on that public network. If you are, that's being exceptionally irresponsible.

    Furthermore, keyloggers aren't so common, especially if you have the good sense not to use Windoze.
     
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    If you log onto a banking site or such even on an open wifi in a public place and check out the https green repeat green lock symbol for [Extended Validation (EV) certificate] in your browser you are far more then fairly safe.

    If you are the type that like both suspenders and a belt at the same time used a VPN on top of that.

    Hell you could used the Tor network set up to use an exit node that you happen to trust also.

    But once more a Extended Validation connection to your bank or whatever should be more then enough security.
     
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    Typing something is enough. Winboze is sometimes necessary.
     
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    Sometimes, unfortunately. I generally keep it contained to VMs. There it is behind that extra layer of security and can't cause trouble with hardware compatibility.
     
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    Maybe Sandboxie can help, correcto?
     
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    That looks like an application-specific solution, something to use with an executable you want to isolate for some reason.

    When I get a Blackbird, though, I just might use a Mac OS X virtual machine on that. I need Microshaft Office, so as long as I can run it somehow, in some recent enough version, I'm good. I've read that I can virtualize PowerPC on a Power9 host, and Windows on VirtualBox would not be an option on there, so that would seem to be the way to go. Tiger + Office 2008, on a Power Linux host. :lol:

    Shame I can't do that on the go. That thing will be desktop-only for the foreseeable future.
     
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    All that, and everything, not pretty suitable for a small laptop at a Caffe, tho. Maybe an iPad is best?
     
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    A nice little walled garden, iOS. Maybe not as private or secure as some would imagine, though, and hardly a platform for getting serious work done.
     
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    When out and about, people should try to wean themselves off WiFi. I'm sure people will survive being internet free for a few hours.

    To my knowledge, cookies don't contain passwords, that's a separate function in your web browser.
     
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    Anybody know the difference between wifi direct and wifi passpoint? And should I enable both on my android for the purpose of free data usage, internet, email, etc. while rolling about?
     

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