Wikileaks BOMBSHELL Exposes Extent Of Clinton Corruption

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  1. Jeannette

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    No it's not since the governments who did give a large contribution were given special favors when Clinton was Secretary of State. It's called 'high treason' and if it was not so, there wouldn't be an investigation going on. In the past Hillary and everyone involved would be hanging at the end of a rope.

    The idea that my country is supporting and giving arms to nations such as Saudi Arabia and Qatar who are using them to supply terrorists and facilitate them in killing Christians, not to mention the genocide going on in Yemen doesn't sit well with me or the American people. If the American people didn't mind, then the media wouldn't be covering up these crimes with lies and spins, and trying to divert people's attention by demonizing Russia with false accounts.
     
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    As Abe Lincoln said, "Calling a dog's tail a leg does not make it one."

    You cannot arbitrarily distort objective information in links to support your own narrative. Charity watch auditing organizations all confirm MY figures. Readers should verify for themselves.


    Program services. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 217,707,941. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 217,707,941
    Management and general. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 21,388,327
    Fund raising. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . + 9,125,430
    Total operating expenditures . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 30,513,757. . . . . . . . . +30,513,757
    Total disbursements. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 248,221,698
    Cost effectiveness 87.7%. . . . (217,707,941 / 248,221,6980
     
  3. thinkitout

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    Loan companies routinely investigate clients . . . . Charities are not so careful. Without concrete proof that these funds contributed to personal enrichment, there is no motive; ergo no case against them.

    The "spin" is merely a political ploy meant to bring Hillary "down in the gutter" with Trump. I'm glad they didn't link her to Salvation Army, Red Cross, UNICEF, Feed the Children, etc. Voters and candidates are not the only innocent victims of political campaigns.
     
  4. LiveUninhibited

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    factcheck is a clinton PR blurb? So you think the only reputable sources our there are Fox and Breitbart, huh? It's funny if you think liberals are the indoctrinated ones.
     
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    Sounds more like the law needs to be changed than that they need to be held to a standard which shouldn't apply to anybody. People obey the law based upon consequences and their own morality. If they do not expect consequences, and breaking that particular law does not conflict with their own morality, the odds of them disobeying the law if they want to are already high. The law doesn't have any inherent moral authority.
     
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    Then Trump is the wrong candidate for you. Is Clinton better? She might be... She might also have been corrupted by the decades of corruption that necessarily accompanies your politics. But... She has had a past of fighting the system and she has put out her neck. She was humiliated for doing so.

    Trump? He has been and will always be a party boy who got it all from heritage and luck. He never in his 70 years did anything for anyone but himself.
    Clinton though travelled about and cared about people when Trump was grabbing (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) and (*)(*)(*)(*)ed around. This is your choice. Choose wisely.

    American exceptionalism is gone... You want to save your reputation? you want to save the alliances you have maintained for 60 years? Don't vote Trump. If you do... The world be very very different within a month. Europe will no longer be your allies. And from there? America will become an irrelevancy. Unless your new Trump Führer decides to do a new Ribbentrop-Molotov to divide Europe... But you will like those before regret your decisions.
     
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    She is a crook, a liar, a complete screw-up, so, she isn't my choice.
    She is a free moral agent that has made her own choices, she will be held accountable to them. If she is the dishrag automaton that you imagine, then certainly she isn't fit to hold high office.
    She has a past of being completely corrupt, a complete screw up and a congenital liar.
    It's not my fault she is the most cheated on woman in America. She married him and stayed with him.
    That's their choice. If they don't think being in alliance with us is in their best interests, then they should move on.
    With 16% of global GDP? I doubt it. We are world's top exporter of food and petroleum/natural gas. All being "Allied" with Europe means is that we carry your National Defense Costs.
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    We carry far more than our share of NATO and of the 28 nations of NATO only 4 other states even carry the 2% of GDP they agreed to by Treaty, the other twenty three nations are all Freeloaders
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    Which country are you from? You can take your threats and bugger off.
     
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    Well lets see. You have the Clinton Foundation and the Trump Charity. Guess which one has been shut down by the government. Aw shucks!
     
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    You are full of Clinton PR. And by the way, I do not watch Fox, in fact I do not watch any tv news. All tv news is corrupt and a scam.
     
  10. fifthofnovember

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    Oh yeah, instead of giving her the same treatment you or I would have gotten (because it "shouldn't apply to anybody"), let's just change the law after the fact to make what she did legal. Anything at all to keep her from having any accountability on anything ever.

    You just laid out the ultimate case against putting Hillary Clinton into ANY position of power.


    I said the people who make the law don't have the moral authority to tell others what to do if they can break those laws with impunity.
     
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    I know what you said. I am saying that it is a logical fact that laws have no inherent moral value.

    No anybody in a similar position should be pardoned. Generally changing laws retroactively pardons people serving time for it. Snowden is an example of somebody who is a traitor, but if somebody was put in jail for what Clinton did, they should be pardoned.
     
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    And Trump is such a failure in business that he's not paying any taxes due to all his bankruptcies, while he doesn't have any political skills. Good luck with your choice between a giant (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) and a turd sandwich. lol

    The US hardly does "defense". It went to attack Al Qaida in Afghanistan. Fair enough. But than it went on to attack the Taliban for 10 years to install a puppet regime there. That's America's choice. It has nothing to do with defense, but its part of its neo-colonial ruthless rule. Same crap in Iraq, where the US / GWB / CIA made up lies about Saddam in order to attack it, install a puppet government there,... but while removing its government, police and army... they caused ISIS to be born in that total anarchy. Europe thanks you for the millions and millions of refugees the US caused with their "defense".

    Hence Europe slims down their army to relocated the money to cope with all then refugees the US "defense" has caused. That American "defense" is so much more than 2% is purely their choice for their neo-colonial thug rule. And it has been quiet a disaster since WWII, supporting fascists in Latin America, supporting the likes of Saddam Husein and plenty of other ruthless dictatorships in the middle east. Their lost wars in Vietnam and Korea. The mess in Somalia etc.
     
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    The world must be chuckling at what's going on with the FBI and Hillary, the word on the street is that Comey was threatened with death if he continued the investigation, proving what Don said about the corruption in DC.
    But our Brit papers like this one are on the ball..:)-

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    Well it makes a welcome change from front-page splashes about the Great British Effing Bake-off eh? :mrgreen:
     
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    Which one is a tool of the corrupt entrenched ruling political class that now operates beyond the reach of the law?

    “Another close Clinton aide at the State Department, Huma Abedin, was for a time permitted to work for the foundation and an outside consulting firm while serving as a “special government employee.” Ms. Mills was also granted the same special designation after leaving the department, during the period when she was getting BlackIvy off the ground.”

    “Since teaming up through BlackIvy, Ms. Mills and Mr. Kim have maintained close business ties, appearing together last year for the opening of a new Sae-A factory in Costa Rica where they cut the ribbon alongside Costa Rica’s president, Luis Guillermo Solís. In Africa, representatives of the United States Agency for International Development have consulted with BlackIvy and Sae-A about efforts to expand the textile trade in Ghana, where BlackIvy says the country’s 23-cents-an-hour minimum wage “compares favorably” to higher wages in China, Bangladesh and Vietnam.
    

    Federal officials are barred from using their positions to negotiate future employment or exchange services for something of value, and no evidence has emerged to suggest that occurred with BlackIvy. Both Ms. Mills and Mr. Kim deny that his investment was influenced by the substantial assistance she provided his company while serving as Mrs. Clinton’s right hand at the State Department.” New York Times, Haiti and Africa Projects Shed Light on Clinton’s Public-Private Web, By MIKE McINTIREOCT. 16, 2016.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/17/us/hillary-clinton-cheryl-mills.html
     
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    Like I said the Trump foundation has been shut down because it was a corrupt fraud that Trump used as a personal piggybank. The Clinton Foundation gets an A rating from CharityWatch and continues to do good around thebworld.
     
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    The Clinton Foundation is a criminal corrupt organization. The record is very clear and well documented and easily discovered with a simple Google search. Did you bother to read the New York Times article?

    Do you read the Washington Post?

    “The Clinton Foundation accepted millions of dollars from seven foreign governments during Hillary Rodham Clinton’s tenure as secretary of state, including one donation that violated its ethics agreement with the Obama administration, foundation officials disclosed Wednesday.”
    Washington Post, Foreign governments gave millions to foundation while Clinton was at State Dept., By Rosalind S. Helderman and Tom Hamburger February 25, 2015
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...937c1e-bc3f-11e4-8668-4e7ba8439ca6_story.html

    Your source is clearly not credible.
     
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    He is writing down a business loss, quite common. If Hillary didn't approve of this, she should have worked to change this tax code provision at some point in her 30 years of public life, but of course she didn't do squat and many of her million dollar donors have also written down losses. I'm for eliminating the entire tax code and replacing it with a National Sales Tax, which of course eliminates this provision that has you so upset. Do you favor that as well?
    Obama has been President for 8 years and Hillary was Secretary of State for 4. Obama has been in Afghanistan for more time than Bush, so take it up with them.
    And Hillary voted for it, and according to her statement recorded on the floor of the Senate when she cast her vote, it was not based on what she learned from Bush, but based on what she knew about Saddam from her 8 years in the WH. But of course she learned nothing from her screw up, she never does, she then helped destroy Libya and Syria following the same foolish policies that Bush followed in Iraq. That's the problem with Hillary, she is irredeemably dense.
    She shouldn't have gone to Iraq, but once a 100,000 US troops had stabilized the area, Obama and Hillary shouldn't have pulled out, providing the vacuum that ISIS then filled, and certainly Hillary shouldn't have sacked Libya and Syria, which contribute far more strongly to the Refugee flows than Iraq, but I think you already know that. Further, Europe made the choice to welcome in the Refugees by the tens of millions, that's on you. It was dumb, idealistic and deadly, and yet you are still too dumb to close your borders? Some ignorance is simply invincible.
    Horse(*)(*)(*)(*). The balance of Europe has NEVER met their NATO commitments, you have been freeloading your defense costs off the American Tax Payer for 75 years. And being a kind and giving people we went along with that while we were averaging 3-4% GDP growth, but after 9 years of 1-2% GDP growth and 8 of those years Barack The Race Baiter has been President, and we aren't going to be able to carry you anymore. But thanks for showing how ungrateful you are, it will make telling you to "bugger off" and protect your own damn territory, easier.

    And you failed to address how America "goes into irrelevancy" when we are 1/6th of the global economy, the #1 military power, the #1 Natural gas and petroleum producer, and the world's largest food exporter.

    You also are apparently too ashamed to answer the direct question of what nation you are from. Are you from one of the freeloaders?
     
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    Now WikiLeaks has released another.....and it was Band who aired the Dirty Laundry.


    WikiLeaks: Chelsea's Husband Used Clinton Foundation to Advance His Hedge Fund.....


    New Podesta emails from WikiLeaks keep on coming and so do new revelations.

    Marc Mezvinsky, husband to Chelsea Clinton, allegedly used family connections at the Clinton Foundation to enrich himself. According to emails from Podesta’s Gmail account that were made public Sunday, Mezvinsky actively courted big-name donors of the Clinton Foundation to invest in his hedge fund, Eaglevale Partners.

    The line between the Clinton charity and separate business was evidently blurred at Foundation events. Mezvinsky allegedly courted donors at a heavyweight poker game hosted by the Clinton Foundation. According to the emails, Mezvinsky actively sought out donors to take part in Eaglevale. He was operating the hedge fund along with two partners and reportedly struggled to find investors. Rich Clinton backers were under the impression that the family looked favorably on boosters who invested in Eaglevale.

    The emails pertaining to the Mezvinksy’s nepotism mostly came way of messages exchanged with ex-Clinton aide Doug Band – who apparently was in a rocky relationship with Chelsea Clinton and her husband. Band emailed Podesta and blew the whistle on Chelsea’s husband abusing the Foundation’s connections to make money for himself.....snip~

    http://townhall.com/tipsheet/jasonh...foundation-to-advance-his-hedge-fund-n2242478
     
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    A lot of this evidence has been around for a while. Now WikiLeaks has proved how corrupt The Clintons and the political class really is.

    WikiLeaks has revealed that the American"Left" has been bought, lock stock and barrel, by Wall Street, and the military industrial complex.

    “With all that taken into consideration, I think the WikiLeaks releases furnish us with an opportunity to observe the upper reaches of the American status hierarchy in all its righteousness and majesty.
    The dramatis personae of the liberal class are all present in this amazing body of work: financial innovators. High-achieving colleagues attempting to get jobs for their high-achieving children. Foundation executives doing fine and noble things. Prizes, of course, and high academic achievement.
    Certain industries loom large and virtuous here. Hillary’s ingratiating speeches to Wall Street are well known of course, but what is remarkable is that, in the party of Jackson and Bryan and Roosevelt, smiling financiers now seem to stand on every corner, constantly proffering advice about this and that. In one now-famous email chain, for example, the reader can watch current US trade representative Michael Froman, writing from a Citibank email address in 2008, appear to name President Obama’s cabinet even before the great hope-and-change election was decided (incidentally, an important clue to understanding why that greatest of zombie banks was never put out of its misery).” The Guardian, Forget the FBI cache; the Podesta emails show how America is run, Thomas Frank, 10/31/2016.
    https://www.theguardian.com/comment...ails-show-who-runs-america-and-how-they-do-it

    The GOP establishment pols now function as the proverbial running dogs of this corrupt mess.
     
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    I hear the Foundation helped pay for her lavish wedding as well. Seems the apple does not fall far from the tree. Compare her to Trumps kids
     
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    If that was the extent of it I would ignore it, but the Clintons' exploitation of Haiti is unforgivable.

    At least Chelsea Clinton expressed some concern to Band over the level of corruption. Good for her.
     
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    They did more damage than the hurricane . Stopping them from growing their own rice was brilliant
     
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    Yeah D.....and we know how her son in law made off with a goldmine in Haiti, to top it off. Most knew he was a hedge manager.

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    Of course they just played poker with some heavy donors, and they all got drunk and decided to help those poor Clintons out, huh?
     
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    Seems illogical that when a business of him goes bankrupt, that he can claim a tax deduction. Sounds more that he personally went bankrupt.

    This is not about Hillary. This is about Trump being a bankrupt = no good businessman with no political experience. And that is the best the GOP was able to produce as a presidential candidate? lol

    Its GWB policy to be there with troops. And it's America's choice to be there and pay for it. So don't go blame other NATO nations for not chipping in when the US goes forth with US thug neo-colonial rule, while the fallout of that policy is a mess other NATO nations get to clean up.

    How about the US takes up that over a million refugees that Germany took in, feed them, clothe them, give them a roof and put them all on a terrorist watchlist. And also them 2 or 3 million Turkey got. After that, we'll discuss who is freeloading. After all the US created that stream of endless refugees for other NATO nations.

    Looking at your replies,.. I have not seen you comment on the burden that the US causes for other NATO countries. You're just distracting that onto "but a democrat did that" as if that is white washing the burden the US creates. It of course does not.
     

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