Will General Milley face a General Court Martial?

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Will General Milley face a General Court Martial?

Poll closed Nov 19, 2021.
  1. Yes, Gen. Milley will face a General Court Martial.

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  2. No, Gen. Milley will not face a General Court Martial.

    90.3%
  1. Pollycy

    Pollycy Well-Known Member

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    Without any attempt at spin, I put this simple question before all of you in both the Left and Right wings of the American political spectrum: based on allegations that have been made against him regarding his conduct with regard to interactions and communications with the military high command in China, will General Milley face a General Court Martial?

    Please note that this poll question does not (NOT) ask if you think that Gen. Milley is GUILTY or not. NO! It asks only if you think that after any relevant evidence is examined by military legal authorities charges will be brought against Gen. Milley that require a General Court Martial.

    You will have a simple "yes" or "no" choice, but feel welcome to post any additional comments you feel are relevant to a "court martial", the proceedings within which differ significantly from those of criminal and civil trials in which the civilians are involved in the U. S.

    You must vote to see poll results, and you may not change your vote.
     
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    It would be impossible to imagine that a duly-constituted JAG could avoid producing a finding that Gen. Milley must (MUST) face a General Court Martial.

    Gen. Milley may eventually be found guilty or not guilty, but as it stands, the wording of the UCMJ (Uniform Code of Military Justice) makes it crystal-clear that if the charges and the evidence upon which charges are formulated meet the legal criteria, then Gen. Milley must face a General Court Martial.
     
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    That's not how it works.

    For non-criminal violations of the UCMJ, the officer or warrant officer is usually given the opportunity to resign in lieu of a court martial, and senior NCOs are given the opportunity to retire, if they meet the criteria, or be involuntarily separated.
     
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    You don't have to go too far to find the answer. He took an oath and so did the President. One of them broke their oath.
     
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    But a JAG must determine whether the matter is a "criminal" one or not. That would be an essential part of the determination to call for a General Court Martial, something less, or, nothing at all.

    Remember, in these military situations, there is no 'Grand Jury' but the JAG.
     
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    The only thing all of us can agree on at this point is that, as President, Donald Trump did not initiate any hostilities against China.

    We don't know yet what justification Gen. Milley thought he had to take the actions he did with the Chinese military high command, but during his almost certain, forthcoming court martial, he will have ample opportunity to explain them....
     
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    and that is what Milley reassured China would happen, this is normal and happens all the time, this Trump pick did nothing out of the ordinary

    China thought Trump might do something crazy, Milley reassured them he was not gonna do something crazy
     
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    I don’t think he will face charges if, if Nancy and the rest of the owners of stupid Xoe think he has incriminating information that will harm the stupid one. Why would/should they take a chance on uncovering more dirt on Xoe? They have everything just perfectly set up why ruin it?
     
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    Milley had no standing to take that action on his own. That decision would have been Trump's. If They thought Trump was incompetent they should have removed him from office, not work behind his back with a hostile government.
     
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    actually he did, it's normal, he followed the correct procedures as well and did not do it alone

    China thought Trump was gonna do something crazy, and Milley reassured them he wasn't

    this was Trump's pick, Trump trusted him to make these decisions

    the left saying he saved us from Trump is an over exaggeration
    the right saying he committed treason is an over exaggeration
    he did what he was supposed to do
     
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    No, he did not but someone in position to do so should.
     
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    No, he did not. Trump valued loyalty above all and he did not choose Milley to replace him when it became politically expedient. The support he may have gotten was from Pelosi, perhaps not directly word of mouth because she's an old snake in the grass and knows when to duck. If that old gal really thought Trump was a danger she could have taken steps to remove him, not impeach him but remove him for incompetence. There again, she's an OLD snake in the grass and snakes don't get that old without learning a thing or two.
     
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    I am going to wait for Milley’s side of the story. After all, “tell-all” books are mostly “sources say, it is reported that, a spokesperson who wants to remain anonymous says.”
    This was the standard of “Go-to” journalism. That smeared Trump every day that ended in “Y”.
    We also have Pelosi’s name coming up as a provocateur in this mess.
     
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    LOL. Yeah, Nancy will get right on that, you know, the person who put it in Milley's head that Trump was crazy.
     
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    nope, he was a Trump pick and he did it by the book

    Trump is upset cause the book made it sound like Milley saved us from Trump, Milley just did what he was supposed to do, ease China's fears and not start a war cause "they" thought Trump might do something crazy cause he lost the election
     
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    "They" thought that UP is what they did.
     
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    Even if Milley is as guilty as Woodwards book says he is, we are obviously a crumbling power. Our institutions fraudulently undermined Trump with the blessing of congress and the swamp, and a general took charge of our military chain of command from outside that chain. Yup. A WTF moment for those who understand and worry about such things.
    And where is the outrage? Crickets.
    Having said that, who is left in government with the political stature and power to say “this is right” or “this is wrong”. Milley and the next general who follows him, has been shown the path to total control for the next general with the balls to do it.
    Where is the breathless “what if” news analysis? Crickets.
    No one gives a bleep anymore. It seems like our leaders are all covering their asses for the final collapse. Even the citizens don’t seem give a rip anymore unless they get their cut.
     
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    "Trump valued loyalty above all"

    yep, what you say is true, it was all about Trump to Trump, Trump first... America... not even on the list
     
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    My "sinking feeling" began way back, during "W" Bush's second term.

    Our "Highway to Hell" began taking us straight down in August 2007, when it became clear that the Federal Reserve System central bank had usurped all the REAL power in our economy, and thus, our entire government as well.

    I sense that you are among the relatively few who see our contemporary American 'situation' for what it is, so hereafter I'll be following your posts.
     
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    That's just a left wing talking point and it's a lie.
     
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    The military is designed to protect us while we run a capitalist country. Who else has the economic might to import poverty, and put them to work and pay them well because our own citizens are slacking and we have to pay them too!
    Freedom from the worst impulses of government is what makes it work.
     
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    Nobody in DC is ever held accountable, it’s pretty unrealistic to expect that to start happening now.
     
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    He should, but he won't.
     
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    Wrong. There is a grand jury. It's called an Article 32 hearing. Might I suggest you actually read the UCMJ instead of getting your info from blogs.

    The fact that you can't even cite the Articles under which he might be charged is telling.

    If it's Article 133, he'll get a chance to resign.
     
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    Obama Def. Sec. Leon Panetta Admits He Was Involved With Gen. Milley’s Secret CCP Calls.
     

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