Will Hillary Clinton Be Charged With Perjury?

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  1. Esperance

    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There is an outstanding referral to the FBI from Jason Chaffetz in the House of Representatives requesting an inquiry on the subject of Hillary Clinton committing perjury under oath before Congress.

    https://judiciary.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Criminal-Referral-Letter-7-11-2016.pdf

    The main reason this may be pursued is that 95% of the evidence is already available directly from the Congressional records and video recordings of the proceedings. And there are no issues with regards to pursuing the declassification of the subject matter of her testimony. The lies that would be addressed would all be extracted from public, open and recorded sessions.

    The secondary reason that this may be pursued is that it could easily be adjudicated within the remaining time allowed by the statute of limitations prescribed for this type of crime.

    If found guilty, Hillary Rodham Clinton would no longer be eligible to receive a security clearance or hold any Federal position and/or office.

    We could finally retire this woman for good and she would probably get a Sandy Berger type of a sentence. Probation, a large fine and community service would all be part of the sentence if she would agree to a plea deal. Otherwise, if she resists prosecution, just convict her and throw away the key.
     
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    DarkDaimon Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, let's deflect attention from the real security issues.
     
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    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Deflect from trying to find any evidence whatsoever after 9 months of searching for it ?
    If the combined efforts of the FBI, NSA, and CIA can't locate something after a window of 4 months, there simply isn't anything to be found.
    And the Crowdstrike claims are now even more questionable.

    With Hillary, all you need to do is fire up a few You-Tube and C-Span sessions and witness the crimes for yourself.
     
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    DarkDaimon Well-Known Member

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    Time will tell...
     
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    Just_a_Citizen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I guess it depends on what the definition of "will" is.
     
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    MMC Well-Known Member

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    Yep, Judicial Watch even brought up her issues of truthfulness.



    Judicial Watch President: Hillary Clinton Still Faces Legal Jeopardy Over Gross Mishandling of Classified Information.....


    Now that FBI Director James Comey has been fired, partially for his handling of the Clinton email scandal, many are wondering if a newly appointed director will take a second look at the case.

    Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton, whose attorneys have worked overtime to expose the extent to which Clinton and her aides went in mishandling classified information on an unsecured private server, says it's certainly a possibility.

    "I think it [Clinton's case] needs to be reevaluated not only under a new FBI Director but under the new leadership of the Justice Department. Comey misdirected the investigation by suggested they needed to prove intent when in fact, common sense tells you that they mishandled it and knew what they were doing was wrong which is enough for a prosecution. It's gross negligence under the law," Fitton said during an interview on Fox News Thursday night. "The [Obama] Justice Department never wanted to have a serious investigation."

    Fitton also reminded viewers the email server isn't the only legal cloud hanging over the former Secretary of State. There are still serious questions about her truthfulness under oath to Congress and of course major issues surrounding corruption at the Clinton Foundation......snip~

    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katie...ces-legal-jeopardy-over-email-server-n2325978
     
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    Libertarianforlife Well-Known Member

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    Comey himself laid out an excellent case against Clinton. There isn't "nothing" out there, there is a hell of a lot out there. There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to link Trump with Russia, but don't think that's stopping the liberal media.
     
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    No.

    Not gonna happen.

    Lmao.
     
  9. Oh Yeah

    Oh Yeah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Part of "Drain the Swamp" scenario.
     
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    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Perhaps it will depend on who becomes the next Director of the FBI?
     
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    All Sessions has to do is request that the interim FBI director forward the case files for DOJ review. The FBI investigation collected enough evidence to support, and demonstrate intent, and a pattern of abuse. Hillarys IT idiots reneged on immunity deals they struck with Comey. Toast. My question is if Comey will be the one left facing the most serious charges. Collusion at the worst, dereliction at best.
     
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    Stand up comedy right here.
     
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    PrincipleInvestment Well-Known Member

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    Right. News flash. Comeys suddenly so nauseated, that he's unable to testify before the Senate Intel Committee. He's looking to lawyer up. Bet on it.
     
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    Your predictions as of late leave you a far cry from Nostradamus good sir.

    As to the OP. All I want is the Damn FBI and Attorney General to do their job. I know it's naive but we need someone up there to believe in.. to be impartial.

    Past crimes, present crimes or future ones. Investigate! Gather evidence! Bring charges if warranted and prosecute with no pleas. Is that so much to ask?

    I don't give a damn who is guilty of what. Trump, Hillary, Podesta, their aides, nannies or grandmas.

    Just do your job the American people will support it. I'm confident in that.
     
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    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I agree...

    Socialism is known for its double standard of letting the elite break the law at will while the underlings pay the price for their corruption. Also known as, "justice for some..."

    It is time to restore the phrase, "liberty and justice for all." It has gone missing for the past eight years.
     
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    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If Comey did nothing about investigating the perjury request, after he specifically told Chaffetz that it had to be referred, he could have to answer for, "obstruction of justice, because the letter provides information that meets the threshold of establishing, "probable cause." that a Federal statute had been violated.
     
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    Don't tease me.
     
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    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If I were a member of the Senate Intelligence Committee, my very first question to Comey would be about this very same perjury referral. It would be interesting to hear his answer.

    My second question might be, "Did anyone instruct you to ignore the referral from the House of Representatives?"

    Perjury has nothing to do with, "intent." Either you lied or you didn't. Comey himself responded to Trey Gowdy that Clinton had not answered truthfully about several things. And Comey said that under oath.
     
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    I would be for reviewing all investigations that took place under Director Comey, especially where it came to the previous Justice Department leaving to the FBI Director the question(s) of whether to bring charges.

    Judicial Watch was pushing for these investigations, in some cases despite the Lynch people giving fairly clear indications of preferring to not be bothered with having to look into things. The United States has to get back to being a country whose people, no matter what their position, operate under law. There were a number things that were looked at by Comey's FBI, and I'm not convinced that the Sessions Justice Department will be as willing to ignore certain pieces of evidence.

    If it had to be referred, it needed to be referred. This seems to be a fairly easy question: was there appropriate follow through by the FBI Director? If not, why not?
     
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    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Wow, the President pretty obviously colluded with our sworn enemies to cheat the election and he gets a pass. Hillary basically uses the wrong laptop to send out some birthday cards and you want to hang her.

    You people make it pretty obvious that you don't like the America you grew up in, the same one my ancestors died for, the one where everybody gets a say, not just those of the 'right' groups, and especially where we don't jail people for daring to dissent with us politically. I'd like to say that maybe you should find someplace more to your liking, that I hear Iran is lovely this time of year and North Korea at least has a leader whose general politics fits your own but then I'd be just like you, so I'll refrain.

    What is basically a wild fluke has made you top dogs, for now, and maybe that's a good thing, for you are revealing yourselves as you really are, and I think that is beginning to sicken people, as it should.
     
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    Hey, there are a few of us, who think just like you do. If trump is guilty of collusion with the ruskies, may him pay for it. If Hillary is guilty of crimes, make her pay for it. Blind Lady Justice. But so many of us do not think America has this kind of justice, and we want it, badly. We think a certain group of elites are too big to jail. Not all elites, just a particular group. The ones who are in control of our politicians, and even our CIA. The power behind the curtain. We think Hillary is one of these too big to jail puppets. But we doubt trump is.

    But regardless we want an impartial FBI and a director. We want the rule of law upheld, and blind justice. And we doubt this has been the case, for a long time.

    Some of us believe the conclusion of the Princeton Study. That we lost the republic and are now an oligarchy. An oligarchy does not prosecute people like Hillary, nor the big bankers who laundered billions in drug cartel money. Holder said they were too big to send to prison. Economies might be hurt. Someone compared this too big to jail to socialism, but these are predator capitalists here, the big bankers, not socialists. So he has his socialism and capitalism confused.
     
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    Draco Well-Known Member

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    So would you support individual investigations for each person? Criminal laws broken being what is searched for?

    I personally think both are a waste of money
     
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    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's a Clinton thing.
    Never forget -
    "I did not have sex with that woman" & perjury.
     
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    What is best for the country in the long term?
     
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    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Hillary has BEEN investigated, she's been grilled by Congress too. What she did is very well known and has been dismissed as inconsequential by just about all who know what it was, though the Republican witch-hunters have tried to make it out as if she had a data pipeline to the Russian Embassy

    Trump OTOH probably had a Tier 1 connection direct to Putin's bank, the thing is we don't know what his connection was, and if anyone tries to find out Trump screams "fake news" and fires everyone in the area, always a sure indication of childlike innocence.

    Someday, this will be over, Trump and the idiots who supported him will be gone to their well-deserved rewards in the hottest Halls of Gehenna and children yet undreamed of will laugh like little hyenas when their parents try to tell them these events actually transpired in reality.
     
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