Will non-whites protect European & Western culture?

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Eventually the USA will be majority non-white.

    Same with Canada.

    We are both seen as part of European culture and Western society.

    But once non-whites are the majority, and rule our nations, will they protect and defend and maintain our Western and European traditions?

    Or will they change our nations?
     
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    65.9% of Hispanic Americans self-identify as White Hispanics and the Hispanic population will increase to 110 million by 2055 and the white non-Hispanic population will decrease to 130 million by then. But black, Asian and other populations will remain stable and will be 100 million in total by 2055. The white population overall will be just over 200 million in 2055 and the non-white population will be around 140 million in 2055. Probably we need to wait until 2100, when the non-white population will actually overtake the white population and cause a significant cultural shift, and White Hispanics are bringing in Spanish or Portuguese cultures from Europe.
     
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    What do you want to happen, preserve or change?
     
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    they'll probably do what whites did to non white nations like slavery, well thats what the holy book says will happen.
     
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    fantasy comic book
     
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    the prophecies are occurring though
     
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    Social culture is constantly changing. What colour people are isn’t going to make any difference to that.
     
  9. rayznack

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    Why do you think blacks, Hispanics and muslims are capable of advancing forward Western civilization after whites retreat to gated communities South Africa style?
     
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    I don’t expect the split to be as distinct in general. The scenario the OP predicts is in reality as much about further racial mixing leading to every more mixed race people who will end up out numbering those who perceive themselves are “pure” (certainly those who care about the difference).

    On that basis, I don’t see the mix of people we have in the future being any less (or more) capable of advancing society than the mix of people we have today or had in the past. Skin colour still doesn’t really mean very much beyond the meanings we create for it.
     
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    You can be non-white and being part-white. But in a general way, it's not being white or colored who matters but what is inside your heart. Their is some white people who betray their own culture by prowning ignorance over the seeking of truth, people who prefer emotional way of thinking rather logical and methodical way of thinking.

    During the french revolution, two men of worth stand up and defended the country : the knight of St-Georges who were composer, dancer, fencer and finally revolutionnary leader. He composed music who are a great gift to the french culture, and Alexandre Dumas (father), a wonderfull general. His son is better known because he was the writter of the three musketeers.

    Those two men were half black and both honored the french culture greatly, and were extremly brave men.

    At the end, their is no black, hispanic, arabic, white, asian their is only valuable citizens and the other.

    Strangely, asian bring a lot in preserving western culture, and many asian became wonderfull interpret of the western music (Chopin, Bach).

    However, their is a big "but" (no double t). I more pessimistic about Islam, traditionnal islam is not really "funny", but salafism is even worth. Salafist aswell a lot of traditionnal approach of islam display a deep hatred for culture, salafist hate science because it say otherwise of their holy book, and show the same hatred for arts like all representative arts and even sometimes music. Most traditionnal muslim countries don't had any representative tradition and focused more on poetry and architecture.
    This way of Islam will be a big threat to western culture if they become the majority. We just have to remember the thousand years old buddha statue the talibans destroyed.
     
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    Well to be honest, us whites are not doing such a great job of defending those principles at the moment...

    The Hispanics are heavily influenced by Iberian cultures which are European, so I don't see such a large cultural gulf.
     
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    Indeed, the regressive cultures of all religious fundamentalists are a threat to Western cultural norms regarding the seeking of scientific truth, free speech and sexual liberty. I find it no accident that those whites which you suggested are not Western in the ordinary sense are also most likely to be Christian religious fundamentalists.
    and Palmyra...

    these people have no respect, even for their own ancient and revered history.
     
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    Paradoxally, their is probably a big hope in Iran. Iranian never defined themselves simply as muslims, but as persic cultured people. Iran regulary produce brillant and cultured people, I think we could hope that if their is no war, Iran could become one of the most advanced country of the region in 30 years.
     
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    So white-black biracial children have the same IQ as whites?

    You may want to research the Minnesota transracial adoption study which showed otherwise.
     
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    Hispanics have low IQ, higher criminality and more dependent on welfare. Almost every mestizo area I've been to was a dump.
     
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    Race matters. Racial groups have different IQ, cognitive profiles and psychological states, eg., blacks are more prone to violence known as 'chimping out'.
     
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    The difference is only a few IQ points.

    White British (101.1)
    Mixed White & African (100.8 )
    Mixed White & Caribbean (98.6)
    Mixed White & Asian (103.3)
     
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    Than who? You? I doubt it.
     
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    Than whites you mentioned. Why is every black and mestizo nation a garbage dump?

    Blacks have lower IQ and impulse control than whites.
     
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    Yes, Western Europe are destined to be future states of the Empire of Islam and a theocratic government of theocratic laws.

    The USA's culture will continue to shift towards being more socialistic.

    What can not estimated is how much new technologies will factor in. However, one certainty of the advance of technology is the governments will increasingly have greater power and control over people.
     
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    No race doesn't matters. I doubt of your statistics, some may be true. However don't forget that the IQ is not only a genetic result, and wrong food or absence of stimulations will heavily impact the IQ and I don't think I even need to speak about the devastating effects of drugs on foetus with pregnant woman.

    But that's not my point, even if what you said were true, race doesn't matters because at the end, only one thing matters : your personnal acts.

    All your statistics, they are average, they never represent an individual. We are each free of our acts, and I would always prefer a polite, erudite, nice black guy than a white rude, ignorant and mean white guy.

    That's the only thing who matters. I'm not even christian, but what 90 % of religions says, you will be judged in your afterlife about the color of your skin or about your acts ?

    Let's talk about a man of my country : Lassana Bathiny, this man is black, muslim and an illegal. He was working in a jewish shop. When one terrorist, Amedy Coulibaly, another black muslim but not illegal attacked the shop, he hid a dozen of clients, all jewish people, then when he escaped the shop, he gave precious informations who enabled the special force to save all those clients and helped to shot the bastard.

    Now Lassana has the french nationality.

    Their is two men, almost the same : black muslims, but one took some horrible decisions when the other one acted bravely.

    That's all we can want from a good citizen : taking the right decisions.

    At a moment, you will have to choose : what does it really matters : the color of your skin or your acts.

    I'm not american, but as far as I know, the american dream is about being recognized for your personnal value, not being righly born.
     
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    People are judged by their averages and variation. Race matters because whites are less likely on average to commit homicide than are blacks. These group averages and standard deviation are why white nations thrive and black nations have low human development indices.
     
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    From the individual point of view it doesn't matters.

    Let's imagine they will be a new race tomorrow knonw as giant smurfs. Even if on 100 giant smurfs, 99 of them are stupid and agressive, if the 100th one is smart and erudite, we should recognize only his personnal view.

    White nations thrives, you should visit Russia, Ukraine or Macedonia, it's not always true. Anyway, even if what you said were true, and it's not really the debate, black people like everybody have to be judged on their personnal value. Neil De Grass Tyson even if he is only half black, is extremly smart. Should you stop to listen him because he is black ? I don't think so.

    The problem of black people aren't a fatality.
     
  25. Lil Mike

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    You might want to pick a better analogy. If my country were facing heavy immigration from giant smurfs, and 99 out of a hundred were stupid and aggressive, what would be the benefit of letting in all of these smurfs just because there might be ONE smurf out of a hundred that might be a good neighbor? Why not just allow the one smurf to immigrate then rather than the stupid 99?
     

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