Will Roe vs. Wade survive?

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  1. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'll just leave this here.

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    Consistent use and they are including LARCS which are not always available to women due to cost.

    So what a great “blame and shame” this is

    Where are the stats for men?

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    Ooooh! Lookee here! Male contraceptive, the condom has nearly one and a half times the failure rate of the most common female contraceptive.

    Want to keep blaming women???
     
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    Outside of rape, women make the decision on if and when sex happens. That's called taking responsibility when you take birth control.

    By your own chart, taking the pill, and requiring your partner to wear a condom results in a near zero chance of pregnancy.

    If you get pregnant, outside that fraction of 1%, then you were irresponsible.

    If a woman has had more than one abortion, it's crystal clear where the irresponsibility lies.
     
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    ohhh! Doubling down on the “blame and shame!”

    men have no responsibility at all!!

    BTW it is not necessarily “additive” and even IF a woman is being religiously observant about “the pill” there are a lot of substances, health issues etc that can disrupt the effectiveness.
    https://helloclue.com/articles/sex/why-does-hormonal-birth-control-fail
     
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    More nonsense, whining, and a severe desire to avoid responsibility for their own decisions is all I see.

    We already know that contraception can have near 100% effectiveness. We know birth control is cheap and readily available. We know more than 50% of women who have had an abortion have had more than one abortion. We know that almost 90% of abortions are by unmarried women. We know that more than 60% of abortions are had by unmarried women in their 20's.

    Every indicator points towards irresponsibility.

    I'm done with it. Good luck working in the margins of the argument with nonsense.
     
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    So, irresponsible women are the ones that get knocked up? The ones that take risks, the ones that are impulsive, the ones that got drunk, the ones without foresight, the ones with impaired judgement.....they all sound like excellent parent material. Now how do we change that? Just make them have babies they don't want?
     
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    I think you're absolutely right here. The soft sell secret here is simply that democrats don't want minority children to infest their lovely utopian cities, so, get folks on board with getting abortions, and sell it as a life affirming responsibility absolution that forces minority women into their sweatshops. Modern slavery to supply the plantation with, but nor burden the plantation with labor absent entanglements. This is so entirely transparent. It also underscores the current policy of democrats who actively import illegal labor across the southern border.
     
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    Do bad parents get to kill their 5 year olds?
     
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    Usually Child Protective Services gets them and then they're the states problem or they turn out to be fine upstanding citizens like their mommas.
     
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    Transparent? You seem to live in a right-wing fog.
     
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    Yes. Or just use protection. Or just not engage with women at all, MGTOW style. Women are usually more bother than they are worth, and with fast technological advancement, soon enough virtual sex will be more arousing than the real thing.
     
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    The loony abortion movement plans on banning ALL contraceptives, after they kill abortion. Reporters occasionally go undercover with anti-abortion groups, that's something they always find.

    And they want both to be national..
     
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    That’s a lie. We may not want to pay for it but we have no plans on banning it
     
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    Over the last 40 years, journalists have gone under cover, and found that several times. You need to realise this is not something they want you to know.

    “What’s been happening in Missouri last week should serve as a warning sign for what’s to come,” says Alexis McGill Johnson, president of the Planned Parenthood Action Fund. “We’re already hearing members of the U.S. Congress spread the same falsehoods we’ve seen in Missouri, conflating medications that prevent pregnancy—birth control and emergency contraception—with medications that end pregnancy.” McGill makes a valuable point—that what happened in Missouri is not isolated, and in many ways it’s part of a Republican playbook for the future.

    “The reason this is no longer undercover is because of the Supreme Court decision in Hobby Lobby.” The Hobby Lobby verdict allowed employers to refuse to pay for birth control coverage for their employees due to religious reasons.

    “The moment abortion advocates have always warned about is here,” says Renee Bracey Sherman, executive director of We Testify, an organization dedicated to the leadership and representation of people who have abortions. “It’s always been here. Politicians who are anti-abortion are also anti–birth control and anti-queer and anti-Black because at the end of the day, they only support a way of life in which they—wealthy white people—are in charge and they are the sole dictators of when, how, and with whom we have sex, procreate, and build our families. It’s about maintaining white patriarchal power and control. It always has been. And anything that allows people to determine their own futures—such as birth control and abortion—is a threat to that.”

    No, this isn’t about life, this is about power."
    https://www.vogue.com/article/anti-birth-control-movement
     
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    So, "Will Roe v Wade Survive?" Looks like it will be overturned by the Supreme Court, which will be a welcome return to Constitutional government. It was federal government overreach from the start, the issue of abortion should be settled state legislatures.
     
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    So what you are saying in some states a woman will have the right to choose what happens to her body and a few miles away in another state a woman will lose that right, is the right way to go and okay with you?
     
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    Yes, that's what I'm saying. This is an issue for individual states to decide.
     
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    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/abortions-since-roe-v-wade

    You mean the clock being rolled back on genocide?
    https://www.congress.gov/115/meetin...RG-115-JU10-Wstate-ParkerS-20171101-SD001.pdf
    36% of abortions are black babies.
     
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    Black women are roughly 7% of the population. According you your data, that means they're having abortions at a rate of FOUR TIMES their representation in the general population, whereas white women are actually underrepresented. Yes, in raw numbers it's more whites, but that's because white women are roughly 40% of the population.

    Regardless, to pretend it's not a bigger proportional problem within the black community is to simply deny reality. I don't know if it's nature or nurture, but it generally isn't white women having 8 kids from 8 different baby-daddies whose identities are generally unknown. I'm not saying don't get your freak on, I'm one of the biggest sluts you'll ever meet, and yet for all the different women I've been with, and it's at least hundreds, possibly thousands, not a single time was a baby made. That was not just blind luck, it was very much on purpose. It's not difficult, yet some just won't even try.
     
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    Exactly!

    This is White Christian Nationalism finally rearing its ugly head.
     
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    The SC draft opinion says nothing about abortion being either right or wrong. It says that it isn't the business of the federal government. and that is exactly right.
     
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    The rise of the robot sex doll!
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    Is it just me or does it look scary!
     
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    This has been in the works for decades. It is White Christian Nationalism, and you guys are forcing it down everyone's throats.

    If this draft is even closely related to what the final decision will be, we will have become a nation under siege by religious zealots.
     
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    They are also more likely to have to live at or below the poverty line and have less access to LARCs
     
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    Yes, that is scary...and creepy.
     

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