Will Roe vs. Wade survive?

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  1. mswan

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    Forcing what? Letting states deal with their citizens' issues? What the hell do you think the 10th Amendment is for?
     
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    Are you really going to hide behind that flimsy excuse?

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    Just look at the map. Traveling to a state where it will be legal to get an abortion is going to be prohibitive to the women who can afford it the least. And did you forget about how some states are currently drafting laws to prevent women from going outside of their state to get an abortion?

    US states could ban people from traveling for abortions, experts warn

    Lawmakers in Missouri weighed legislation early this year that would allow individuals to sue anyone helping a patient cross state lines for an abortion. The law was ultimately blocked in the state’s legislature, but experts expect such legislation to gain more support if Roe is weakened or overturned.

    “I think states are not going to rest with just saying ‘there won’t be abortions in our state.’ I think they’re going to want to ban abortion for their citizens as much as they can, which would mean stopping them from traveling,” said David Cohen, professor at Drexel University’s Kline School of Law and lead author of a forthcoming article on cross-state legal issues that could arise in the abortion context.

    “We’re going to see state-against-state battles that are really going to divide this country even deeper on this issue,” he said.

    If the supreme court overturns abortion protections, such travel bans might also be permitted to stand, Cohen said.

    “The supreme court does not have well-developed case law regarding extraterritorial application of state law,” he added in an email. A court that has gone so far as to overturn Roe, he said, “would likely take that unclear precedent in the direction that is most anti-abortion.”
    This is a full assault on Americans to turn this country into a theocracy.

    You are deluding yourself if you think the majority in this country is going to allow this to go unchallenged.

     
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    Still in uncanny valley territory. That will be surpassed soon enough.

    What happens to the human race once porn and sexbots replace sex between human beings?

    Perhaps one day babies will be made in gene banks, drawing donated sperm and fertilizing donated egg cells, or maybe even creating both with computer controlled machines selecting gene by gene. And the joys of sex itself, completely separated from baby making.
     
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    Oh, I expect to see riots in the streets, burning of cities, fat old ladies marching with pu++y hats on. and endless weeping and wiling throughout the land.
     
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    I pray I'm long dead and gone on that day.
     
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    Is that what they tell you to repeat? Some kind of fear tactic to make pregnant women feel alone and that there is no one to turn to?

    Why not post this instead?
    https://www.americanadoptions.com/pregnant/article_view/article_id/4345

    Also, there is a lot of help financially from federal government, states, various institutions, and churches.

    Are these things all only supported financially and ran by lefty liars?
     
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    I think republicans are about to be shocked about how much I’ll feeling overturning Roe will generate
     
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    Is there? How about you link to that?
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    Sometimes there is no choice
     
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    I really hope that there are no women in your house of childbearing age. Nothing drives a point home than for it to happen in your home.
     
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    I think this will be their implosion point, but it's not going to happen all at once.

    What I fear is the potential of young women getting harmed or killed. They want history to repeat itself.
     
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    Of course they are unemployed...The fact that they choose not to work and take care of the kids is a problem for you?

    Are you against stay at home moms? Not sure what you are getting at. You do realize I posted an adoption link right? They can adopt, and get all the assistance they need, if they don't want the baby. They can stay at home and get financial assistance if they do. They can sell their life to a corporation as an employee and get daycare to help them in that endeavor as well; assuming they prefer working. Not sure where the hang up is here. There is lots of help for all htese options.
     
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    There are always options other than killing the baby.
     
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    Yes, there are, including killing the mom, or if both survive, dooming them to a life of poverty.

    Are you going to advocate for more welfare funding?

    Or get started on building those additional juvenile detention centers now?
     
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    How did you get there? This is not choice but circumstance
    Again how did you get there? These are either single women or women whose partners have abandoned them or women in abusive situations for the most part. And adoption is not going to be that financially viable for them - certainly not enough to tide them over the period they may not be able to work
     
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    Ok list them

    Adoption? Have you actually looked at the numbers because if every aborted child were adopted out you would flood the market in months. Plus the remuneration does not s over all expenses
     
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    The only people dooming them to poverty are themselves.
     
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    What, you think an option isn't a real option unless it's on a gold platter? "Oh, I couldn't possibly do that, its way too difficult." Wah, wah, wah.

    Get real. people have to take their own responsibilities seriously.
     
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    Ahhh, and there it is, the banality of evil.
     
  19. mswan

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    I don't think you have any idea what that means. Did you surf the net for a new phrase?
     
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    Figures you don't understand it.
     
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    Oh, I understand it, but I don't think you do. I don't think you even know who Hannah Arendt was, not in your fifth grade reading list
     
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    Awwww, such compassion from you, an Aussie who doesn't even belong on this forum recommending by very thinly veiled words that we don't give enough free sh*t to our "poor and working class" folks. That's bullshit. We spend so much money on them that many of them refuse to take a job because their cash and other benes are better! THAT has to stop.

    As for our poor black women without access to LARCs, first, most people are poor for a reason, and it's usually self-inflicted. Second, they may not be able to afford the latest and greatest LARC (a term I'm sure you're proud you knew when most of the rest of the forum doesn't), but they can afford to take BC pills and use condoms every time they do the horizontal mambo.

    Just do those two very inexpensive things and you (as a woman) could have sex with 5 different guys every day of the week and be relatively sure of not conceiving. One thing they DESPERATELY need to do is adopt a "no glove, no love" policy, and stick to it no matter the circumstances... because many (most?) single black men "playas" simply don't give a sh*t and refuse to wear a condom. But if they found that meant they were leaving with a nasty case of blue balls because their girlfriend of the evening said "No way, Jose", that might change.

    Oh, and since I for one consider it rude to throw out a seldom used acronym without explaining it, for those scratching their foreheads right now wondering WTF a LARC is, it stands for Long Acting Removable Contraception.
     
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    People used to escape poverty all the time. Now, they don't.

    Your thinking is an antique, and counterproductive.
     
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    Mr. Cohen (whoever the f he is) is a moron. US States do not have a right to prevent people from interstate travel (except maybe those released on bail pending trial, or on probation), nor do their laws extend beyond their borders. I can fly to Denver and get "Rocky Mountian High" on as much weed as I can possibly smoke, and unless I'm a state employee who fails a drug test upon coming home, Florida can't touch me. I can do a YouTube video of me doing so, write a letter to the Governor with a full confession, and anything else you might think of, assuming I leave the weed in Denver when my trip is over, I'm untouchable.

    Anyone who implies otherwise is smoking weed themselves. Or something even much more potent. It's just stupid to suggest such a thing. Stop panicking over insane sh*t you read on the web somewhere.
     
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    What a load of crap. If an individual goes to high school, applies themselves, and manages to graduate, assuming they have a good enough work ethic and actually learned a few things in school (basic crap like how to read and write, these days some computer skills beyond playing video games, some math and maybe a few well chosen electives), it would be pert near impossible for them NOT to crawl their way out of poverty. Not two weeks after they graduate, of course, but by the time they hit their mid-to-late 20s, if they put in the effort (very key words), they'll have some sort of at least reasonable middle-class carreers. Truck driver, construction worker, hell, they can do a stint in the military, opportunity abounds.

    But people don't apply themselves. They manage to get lots of criminal convictions, including multiple felonies. They have 7 kids. All by the time they're 22.

    Yeah, they're going to be in deep doo-doo for the rest of their lives, ESPECIALLY if you combine all that with being a high school dropout.

    Otherwise, it's doable for those who are willing to work. And work hard. People can still go to college without taking out loans, or a trade school funded by working tables is a good option, too. But so very many expect to just be taken care of, and sadly, we oblige them that.

    Don't want to work hard? No problem, bunky, here's a free food EBT card, go to this address for an apartment the community is involuntarily paying more of your rent than you will have to, and oh, those kids?? Here's a lot of money to help you with them. We'll check in with you every now and then, just lie to us about how you're trying to find a job, and you'll be fine for the rest of your life, because we're "compassionate". One last thing, make sure you vote for Democrats, because those racist Republicans will take your gravy train away and you will have to get a job, so that's very important. We'll even give you a ride to the polls.

    Normal everyday people are pulling themselves out of poverty on the regular around here. But we make it far too cushy and easy to take the lazy road and not even try. Those jobs "Americans won't do"?? I bet you if their choice was to do them or to literally starve to death you'd find zero need for illegal aliens, because those EBT cards just eliminate any fear-based motivation to do something as essential as put food on your own table. There are no consequences for NOT taking those jobs.
     

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