Will Ruth Bader Ginsberg leave the Supreme Court during the Trump presidency?

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Will Justice Ruth Bader Ginsberg leave the Supreme Court during the Trump presidency?

Poll closed Nov 7, 2018.
  1. Yes, she will voluntarily resign.

    5 vote(s)
    11.6%
  2. No, she will not voluntarily resign.

    10 vote(s)
    23.3%
  3. Yes, because she will die during the Trump presidency.

    23 vote(s)
    53.5%
  4. No, because she will not die during the Trump presidency.

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    11.6%
  1. Pollycy

    Pollycy Well-Known Member

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    Will Ruth Bader Ginsberg leave the Supreme Court during the Trump presidency?

    This is a simple, unbiased poll question. Please express your opinion and comment freely.
     
  2. Pollycy

    Pollycy Well-Known Member

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    She's 85 years old! What are the odds that she'll hang on much longer? From an actuarial standpoint she's already lived longer than the average for people born in 1933.
     
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  3. Pycckia

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    A life expectancy calculator I used suggests 95, with 75% chance of living 6 more years.
     
  4. Pollycy

    Pollycy Well-Known Member

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    The berkeley.edu site has a chart that indicates an American female born in 1933 should expect to live to be age 65.1 years.

    The seniorliving.org site has a chart that shows only 4% of American White females born in the 1930's (not year-specific) should expect to live to be 85 years old. As already mentioned, Ruth Ginsburg turned 85 years old this year, 2018.

    A National Center For Health Statistics (NCHS) site indicates that a White American female born in 1933 would have a nominal life-expectancy of 66.3 years.

    I can't describe myself as an avid "gambler", but it also true that I have never walked out of any casino in Colorado, Nevada, or Germany as a loser. If I were going to place a bet on it, it would be that she will pass away long before Donald Trump's presidency is finished -- and I predict that he will be succeeded in office at noon, on January 20, 2025.

    But she will never retire so long as he is the President of the United States....
     
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    I have no idea.
     
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    I have no idea either. Other than mortality, which nobody can control, she is in charge of her own destiny under the Constitution.
     
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    She will never resign with trump .
     
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    Ginsburg will have herself rigged with tubes for life support before she would ever just die as long as Trump is in office. Her hatred for him is very much alive. Obviously much more alive than her mind is anymore. :roll:

    But she's gotten pretty old and the stress of seeing new justices on the court who aren't flaming libs like she is might cause her to have a heart attack.
     
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  9. Sallyally

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    I wonder how long her parents lived?
     
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    After watching this recent video, I was surprised at how frail she is. Her mind is sound, but I don’t think it would take much of a sickness to do her in. She will sit on the bench until her Very last days.
     
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    I think the better questions are these.
    1. Which will go first.....her physical body or her brains.
    2. If her brains, who decides when she is unfit for the position?
     
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    Then why make 4 options when 2 would suffice?

    Not Simple enough ;)
     
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    No she wont resign.....not willingly.

    Anything medical that comes up.....the Demos will do everything they can to keep her alive. I wouldn't put it past them to hook her brain up to a computer.
     
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    This chart from SSA says that an 83 year old woman can expect to live almost 8 more years.

    https://www.ssa.gov/oact/STATS/table4c6.html

    So I'll take your bet.
     
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    Theyll wheel her in on a vent if they have to
     
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    That assumes she was born in the year 2015. But Ginsberg was born in 1933... big difference in life-expectancy.
     
  17. Pollycy

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    Two of the choices were offered assuming she will die before Trump leaves the presidency... or not. Two of them were offered assuming she either lets her grip on the power-bloc go, or, remains obdurately and doggedly ensconced on the high court, even though her mind and body are rapidly slipping away in a puddle of rancor against Trump, and sleepy inattentiveness.

    You think that an excessive number of choices...?

    If anything, poll-choices are usually criticized as being too biased, too imprecise, or too few in number. You can't please everyone, I suppose....
     
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    :blahblah:

    Simple is Yes / No.
    Beyond that is, Less Simple. More Complex.
    I like simple polls.
    Yes or No. http://politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/simple-poll-yes-no.541113/
    It doesn't get more simple, do it
     
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    She doesn't look like the picture of health, but you never know. My 87 year old mother in law could run circles around her. My MIL has beat breast cancer at 74, broken her back by being flipped backwards off of a lawn mower at 75, drove to her daughter's house with a broken hip at 84(tripped on a rug while wearing flip flops), and broken a femur at 86. She can still walk just fine and climb into pickups. She doesn't even need a cane. She lives with us, but still helps with light housework.

    I also know a 90 year old lady who mows 20 yards/week(with push mowers) with her niece for extra spending money and exercise.
     
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    I think everyone faces a time in life where work is just not any fun anymore. For most that happens in the 50s and 60s. When that happens if you have the means you throw in the towel. I think that is happening with her now. In recent decisions she seems rarely engaged. Old people do not like turmoil. She was not happy with the way Kavanaugh was treated. She may be searching her liberal soul and wondering if they are still in tune with her. I am betting she is thinking I don't have much time left and what I have should be spent with family or doing something I like. When it gets cold she will be thinking about her friends and family in Florida. I don't think she will hang around hoping for a liberal pres. I think she will hang it up within the next year.
     
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    What are the Vegas odds of Sonia Sotomayor being run over by a taco truck while Trump is still in the White House ?

    This is from 2013, before Justice Antonin Scalia mysteriously died at a liberal dude ranch near the Mexican border and no autopsy was ever performed.

    Remember, this is from 2013.

    Which Supreme Court Justice Is Most Likely To Die In The Next Four Years?

    So, who is most likely to die next? Well, Justice Anthony Kennedy is the most likely to die followed by Antonin Scalia and Ruth Bader Ginsburg.

    • Justice Anthony Kennedy, 76, has a 19 percent chance of dying by 2017.
    • Justice Antonin Scalia, 76, has an 18.38 percent chance of dying by 2017.
    • Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, 79, has a 17.77 percent chance of dying by 2017.
    • Justice Stephen Breyer, 74, has a 14.7 percent chance of dying by 2017.
    • Justice Clarence Thomas, 64, has a 10.81 percent chance of dying by 2017.
    • Justice Samuel Alito, 62, has a 5.42 percent chance of dying by 2017.
    • Chief Justice John Roberts, 57, has a 3.74 percent chance of dying by 2017.
    • Justice Sonia Sotomayor, 58, has a 1.77 percent chance of dying by 2017.
    • Justice Elena Kagan, 52, has a 1.61 percent chance of dying by 2017.
      https://www.businessinsider.com/supreme-court-death-calculator-2013-1


     
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    She may die, but, as long as Trump is President, she won't walk away voluntarily.
     
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    I could see her maybe retire if the Dems take the senate, knowing they will not allow a nominee to be voted on until Trump is gone as they are so bitter over Garland. She might even feel it would energize the left to elect a Dem President come 2020.

    I'm surprised she didn't retire 2-3 years before Obama's 2nd term was over.
     
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    In my experience, nearly everything you said is true (I'm an old guy -- not ancient yet -- but old, and now, happily retired).

    But turmoil, and the blind tyranny that spawns it so often in today's radical Democrats is the kind of thing I was allergic to even during my youth, back when we were all in 'turmoil' because of the Vietnam War. And today, you don't have to be 'old' to dislike blatant unfairness, needless chaos, and unproven slander against people with proof!

    But Ruthie? I think you're wrong about her. She's a liberal icon -- one of their dwindling number of 'last and best' hopes. She hates Donald Trump with a vitriol and venom that she takes no trouble to disguise. She'll maintain solidarity with Obama appointees, Kagan and Sotomayor, in keeping a solid liberal "judicial-activist" bloc intact... until the day she dies, or until Trump is gone. Too bad for her that it looks like Trump may well remain president until January 2021 -- and then a man who is perhaps even far MORE conservative may take over for eight years -- MIKE PENCE!

    All of us might agree that Ruthie won't make it to the year 2029.... :skull:
     
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    Turmoil and blind tyranny far more describes Trumperism than the left.
     
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