Will the GOP Soon Begin to Reject Trumpery?

the tea party was taken over by a bunch of racist that did not like Obama... they left the tea party when Obama left office

 

One thing I can tell you is that your lefty nonsense doesn't help. You know nothing, so just... put a sock in it. The "you're racists, homophobic, islamaphobic blah blah blah" stuff is just a lot of wasted hot air.

You are the enemy, and I admit that you're winning. Just don't think that calling people names is going to get you anywhere.

 

don't take it personal, I have no clue if you were tea party under Obama and left the tea party under Trump.... I am talking about those that did that

where did the tea party go, they were everywhere when Obama was President, no where to be seen under Trump

am I the enemy because I am an American?

 

No, it's just I know lefties. You use these words because you hate your political opponents. They mean nothing.

What happened is that the tea party managed to get a lot of people elected to congress who vowed up and down they were going to do something about government spending, and almost to a man, they flat out stabbed the tea party in the back. They really gave up after that.

Did you know that Boehner actually said he was going to do something about spending? The man became Obama's lap dog!!! Do you realize how many of those morons lied about getting rid of obamacare, only to turn around and stab the people who voted for them?

The problem is that we are trying to elect politicians who don't want to be politicians. It's part of the process, but it's not working. You can't expect a politician to not want to be a politician. The only option left is to get rid of politicians.

 

the tea party was just the Republican party that wanted to put people in office that would vote "No" regardless what was offered by Obama, they wanted a party of "No" in office, they got that, then Trump had to deal with that party when he took over.... hard to make Bipartisan deals when your own party is blocking you, the ol be careful what you wish for... came back to bite the right in the rear end

the country is divided almost 50\50, neither party can get everything they want, bipartisan is the only way it works, sorry republicans that want a far right government... just not gonna happen... not in our lifetimes anyways

 

There is virtually no argument that the President has the power to declare a national emergency. That is not the point.

The point is, can the President declare a decades long problem a national emergency? If the President can't get his way -- funding from Congress -- can the President simply declare a national emergency to get that funding? Congress appropriates funds. Congress denied Trump his funds. Can the President challenge the Separation of Powers principle of our Constitution? Do even Republicans want Trump to establish a horrible precedent? Picture President Ocassio-Cortez declaring a national emergency and issuing an E.O. stating that all guns are illegal and banning the NRA.

Those are the issues, and Trump's fans refuse to talk about it because their hero is embracing a losing cause.

Have you noticed? Trump's supporters are avoiding this thread. They are finished. Trump is finished.

 

especially after saying he did not have to do this and especially after Congress him just asking Congress and getting their answer

 

Tea party Republicans are now the Freedom Caucus and they are a small minority in Congress. Trump is doing exactly what the Freedom Caucus wants him to do, and he is too stupid to realize that is political suicide.

At rallies before the 2018 election Trump talked about the same things he is talking about now. His party lost 40 seats and control of the Senate. Trump and Congressional Republicans do not realize his rhetoric and his manufactured Constitutional crisis is a lost cause. I can't believe Senators could be this stupid.

In the meantime, his fans avoid reality.

 

The bolded portion....not possible to do since this involved an amendment in the Constitution. Just like Trump can't sign an EO to ban birthright citizenship, no President can sign an EO to ban guns. May be more restrictions....but not an outright ban.

 

Obama was and is a scumbag, so being the party of "no" doesn't really say anything. If a scumbag wants to piss in your soup, and that's all he wants to do, then you become the guy who says "no".

The country is certainly divided, but the problem for us conservatives now is that we've tried the political process. We tried with the tea party and got stabbed in the back. We then tried with the most outlandish guy ever, and got stabbed in the back.

I don't think we have too many options left, but one thing is for sure - those options are no longer in the ballot box.

 

The issue is that the dumbs dumbs in the party of no have zero viable solutions of their own. It was all about obstruction and they were great at it. And conservatives like you cheered and egged them on. You have no one to blame but yourself.

 

The next Dem president can declare the GOP a national emergency and put an end to their torturing of the working men and women of America.

 

You are missing the point. The point is the precedent Trump will set if successful. A Democrat President will be allowed to issue a liberal E.O. a Republican Congress has rejected.

Do I have to draw you a picture? Geez.

 

Maybe appropriate,

 

I don't mind being the "party of no". I despise government, which is why I'm a conservative.

What you are incapable of grasping is that conservatives don't want government, but it's sometimes necessary.It's an unfortunate evil and because so many psychopaths love government that we who don't need government need to band together to keep the psychos away from their ultimate desire to turn the country into some communist hell hole.

If you could understand somebody not wanting to be told when to take a dump, when to blow their nose, when to sleep, and when to eat, then you might understand where I'm coming from.

Sadly, you love to be told what to do, and cannot understand why others might not like that. To you, it's a complete and utter mystery why everybody isn't institutionalized.

 

I love being told what to do?? LOL at your assumptions. That's all I need to know about you, stereotyping because I disagree with your viewpoint. I thought conservatives are "independent" thinkers but you are just the same as others that claimed to be "independent" thinkers. What a hoot.

 

Define trumpery only exists in the minds of leftist that post on political forum. So will they reject imaginary nonsense? I don't think they ever entertained it in the first place.

 

Will the GOP Soon Begin to Reject Trumpery?

Let's hope so. If the GOP starts now they may have a candidate for the next election.

 

IMO there is no reason for the GOP to reject President Trump.

He has an absolute lock on the GOP faithful and the biggest obstacle to most GOP representatives being reelected is being primaried. There's no good reason for a professional GOP politician to do anything other than provide full-throated support for President Trump.

IMO unless there is a recession between now and 2020 then President Trump has a better than even chance of being reelected. He may lose the popular vote by an even larger margin than last time but he can still hold onto the electoral college so long as:

• Continuing GOP efforts at voter suppression are successful
• People think only of their personal circumstances

 

I believe that "leftist!" is being supplanted as the mindless media meme to be parroted. The majority of Americans who do not kowtow to the divine p***y-grabber are now to have the designated "socialist baby-killers!" spewed at them.

Avid Trump bum kissers themselves insist on their being apostates from traditional Republican orthodoxy.

The long-established GOP philosophy espoused personal integrity, moral rectitude, fiscal restraint, free trade, Constitutional fidelity (including the delegation of the power of the purse to Congress), etc., whilst abhorring arrogant executive overreach - such as Big Government confiscating the private property of Americans by eminent domain.

Rank-and-file Republicans, in control of both houses of Congress for two years, refusing to give Cry Baby Trump $5.7 billion for his campaign gimmick is a prime example of the Party's divergence from Trumpery.

Republican values vs those of the RINOs of Trumpery that have, for now, displaced them are exemplified by traditional Party conservatives such as Trump Justice Department Special Counsel Robert Mueller, former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, and former FBI Director James Comey. (now all consigned to their "liberal!" gulag by the aforementioned bum kissers.) The embodiments of Trumpery are Paul Manafort, Michael Cohen, Michael Flynn, George Papadopoulos, Rick Gates, Roger Stone, etc.

The apotheosis of a sleazy reality-tv performer hailed by neo-nazis and other white supremacists as their "Glorious Leader!" and "God Emperor!" marks a radical departure from the values of customary Republicanism.

 

The alt right cons don't think ahead about precedents.

The Don has a solid point if the GOP has rebranded itself as trumpian, and that point is not yet a given.

 

The problem with your postulations centers on the fact they are void of any corporeal connection to reality.

But the pseudo-intellectual wordsmithing is fun to read, so credit for that.

 

iow, ocean515 does not understand what Natty Bumpo is saying.

 

If you need to pretend that the stark divergence does not exist, that is your prerogative. No one is going to spank you with a rolled-up copy of Forbes for getting it right or wrong.