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Will Trump worshippers ever admit that he lost in 2020, fair and square?

Discussion in 'Opinion POLLS' started by Statistikhengst, Aug 23, 2021.

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Will Trump worshippers ever admit that he lost in 2020, fair and square?

Poll closed Oct 22, 2021.

  1. Yes, they have become enlightened, praise Jesus!

    2 vote(s)
    6.9%

  2. Maybe, if you rub their bellies and promise extra pudding

    1 vote(s)
    3.4%

  3. Probably not, but even Hell could possibly freeze over

    4 vote(s)
    13.8%

  4. Speaking of hell, hell no, MAGA all the way to the firey gates!

    22 vote(s)
    75.9%
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  1. MJ Davies

    MJ Davies Well-Known Member

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    You probably should have not gone there.

    Nevertheless, let's recap. This is what you asked and how I responded:

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    So, since you are claiming that I have some kind of cognitive impairment, can you explain how that does NOT address your post exactly?

    Why would Trump haters admit he won the 2016 election "fair and square" if he, himself, said it was not a fair election? Does that make sense in your world (NOT-an)Independent Thinker?
     
    MJ Davies, Sep 6, 2021
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  2. independentthinker

    independentthinker Well-Known Member

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    What? Must have misread your post. Since when did Trump haters not complain about the 2016 election results, claiming that Trump colluded with the Russians to influence the election? They claimed for four years that Trump didn't win in 2016 and still do today. I just posted with another poster who claimed some nonsense about Trump really didn't win in 2016 because he didn't win the popular vote.
     
    independentthinker, Sep 6, 2021
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  3. MJ Davies

    MJ Davies Well-Known Member

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    Let's try again.

    You asked "Will Trump hates ever decide that Trump won the 2016 election, fair and square."

    MJ: "That's going to be a tough sale. "(included information about Trump, himself, saying the 2016 election was rigged).

    YOU: That didn't answer my post.

    MJ: Yes, in fact, it did.

    YOU: I'm talking about Russian collusion and popular votes now because I just like to go hysterical because the left, left, left, left!!!! Trump is my President for life and even in the afterlife!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! P.S. I hate lefties!




    So, how's that working out for you?
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    trump won the EC, yea — that is what we are discussing. He lost to Hillary based on the votes of the people.
     
    cd8ed, Sep 6, 2021
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  5. MJ Davies

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    He doesn't mind unfair elections that work in his favor. That's why he's not fighting for "election integrity". He would be filing cases in all the states if it was about cleaning things up. What he wants is "unfair in my direction".
     
    MJ Davies, Sep 6, 2021
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

    Kindly REFRAIN from PROJECTING your own debating FAILURES onto others.

    Sad!

    :roflol:
     
    Derideo_Te, Sep 7, 2021
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    Speaking of cognitive impairment let's RECAP and exactly what the "other poster" ACTUALLY said.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...fair-and-square.591383/page-6#post-1072915815

    YOUR asinine claim of "fair and square" was what was ACTUALLY exposed as being a DISINGENUOUS falsehood by the "other poster".

    Why did YOU stop reading after the first paragraph?

    Was it because Your Confirmation Bias was triggered?

    Because had you FINISHED reading you would have realized that I was DEBUNKING your MISCHARACTERIZATION of the 2016 result.

    But THANKS for establishing who it ACTUALLY is that is demonstrating "cognitive impairment" when it comes to the RECORDED factual content in this thread.

    Sad!

    :roflol:
     
    Derideo_Te, Sep 7, 2021
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  8. independentthinker

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    Trump won in 2016. Do you question the election results?
     
    independentthinker, Sep 7, 2021
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  9. independentthinker

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    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

    Kindly REFRAIN from PROJECTING your own debating FAILURES onto others.

    Sad!
     
    independentthinker, Sep 7, 2021
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    The left screamed election fraud for four years and still do. Trump's got a long way to go before he hits four years.
     
    independentthinker, Sep 7, 2021
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    :roflol:

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    :roflol:
     
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    So having had YOUR disingenuous fallacy EXPOSED you hastily attempt to MOVE the GOALPOSTS instead.

    PRICELESS!

    :roflol:
     
    Derideo_Te, Sep 7, 2021
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    Yeah, making the truth the new goal is never acceptable.
     
    Heartburn, Sep 7, 2021
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    I literally posted “trump won the EC” in the remarks you quoted.

    Our president is elected via the EC (even though I disagree with that system) so he was the legitimate president. He had already set up the “stop the steal” campaign many on the right fell for 4 years later.

    Biden won in 2020 — per the PV and EC.
    Do you question the election results?
     
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    What TRUTHINESS are you referring to in this instance?
     
    Derideo_Te, Sep 7, 2021
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    Not the results but how they were arrived at.
     
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    I don’t understand, that is the only metric he won by — the only relevant metric.

    If you are wanting me to say he lost the popular vote by almost 3 million votes to Hillary Clinton which was the actual will of the voters I can indeed acknowledge that. Was that what you were looking for?
     
    cd8ed, Sep 7, 2021
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    I'm not looking for anything. Hillary was Prom Queen.
     
    Heartburn, Sep 7, 2021
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    She was the will of the people over trump. Why did you post “Not the results but how they were arrived at.”? The results and how they were arrived at is the same — the EC
     
    cd8ed, Sep 7, 2021
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    The left questioned the election results for four years so they have no standing in Trump questioning election results.
     
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    That's what I said, Hillary was Prom Queen.

    No, the result was a Biden Presidency, how it was determined was questionable. There has never been an election quite like that one.
     
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    Thanks for your opinion? It is factually inaccurate however.
     
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    It was determined the same way as trump — the EC voted which is why is was particularly egregious for the attack on the Capitol to occur.

    The election was questioned and has been through various reviews and audits even by especially partisan sources and very little fraud has been found — according to the most recent reports it was primarily done by right wing politicians or voters.

    I would ask what it would take for any of you to be satisfied with the results but everyone knows that goal post moves to often to even receive an inquiry.
     
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    Hillary wasn't the will of the voters. She did not receive a majority of the votes.
     
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    Factually inaccurate? The left are still saying Trump colluded with the Russians to influence the 2016 election with no evidence. And, they also claim that Russia influenced the 2016 election with no evidence. Maybe you can link to even one vote Russia changed with their influence campaign. There is zero evidence that Russia changed or influenced even one vote. Not one.
     
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