Will Trump worshippers ever admit that he lost in 2020, fair and square?

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Will Trump worshippers ever admit that he lost in 2020, fair and square?

Poll closed Oct 22, 2021.
  1. Yes, they have become enlightened, praise Jesus!

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    6.9%
  2. Maybe, if you rub their bellies and promise extra pudding

    1 vote(s)
    3.4%
  3. Probably not, but even Hell could possibly freeze over

    4 vote(s)
    13.8%
  4. Speaking of hell, hell no, MAGA all the way to the firey gates!

    22 vote(s)
    75.9%
  1. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Russian interference was proven by a Republican Senate investigation as was Russian collusion [source]
     
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    No it was determined by the vote and how that was governed is what raises questions for so many Americans.
     
  3. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Technically correct — she was still chosen over trump by the most voters.
     
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    I must have missed that. Can you please repost proof that anything Russia did influenced even one vote.
     
  5. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You must have. Glad I could help educate you.
     
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    independentthinker Well-Known Member

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    Ummmmmmmmmmmm, you totally forgot to post the proof showing that anything Russia did influenced even one vote. Do you have it or not?
     
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    Wrong!

    The SOURCE was provided in #176.

    You just FAILED to click on the link to it!

    Sad!

    :roflol:
     
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  8. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Because it was a strawman of your own creation. Where did I claim it influenced one vote?
    Things can be a crime just from the attempt — its success is irrelevant.

    If you really don’t believe fake information portrayed as fact doesn’t catch on them you haven’t been paying attention the last year.
     
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    The left claim that Russia influenced the 2016 election. You could not have influenced an election if no one was influenced and the left have never provided any evidence that any influencing Russia did influenced even one vote.
     
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    The claim was that there was election interference through social media and disinformation campaigns targeting the uneducated and biases of bigots. This has been proven by the Republican Senate investigation and through other document releases.

    I have not seen a mainstream position saying that votes were changed — can you back up your assertion? Are you really saying things like fraud are not really fraud if it isn’t successful?
     
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    Can you back up your assertion that anything Russia did influenced even one vote? If you can't, then Russia didn't influence anything.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Again, that is your own failed strawman.
    I do not debate claims I never made because my opponent is too lazy to address what is being said.
     
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    The Trump suckers had to outdo the Hillary outrage brigade.
     
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    Russia didn't influence anything because the left have never proven one case where someone was actually influenced to vote for Trump instead of Hillary because of anything Russia did. Therefore, Russia didn't influence anything. The left cried election fraud for four years with no proof of this.
     
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    A Republican senate investigation on the election interference disagrees with your opinion but thanks for sharing?
     
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    Then why don't you post the facts about any voters who were influenced by Russia. Do you have any? How many changed their minds and voted for Trump over Hillary because of anything Russia did?
     
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    No, the Senate Committee report did NOT indicate Russia had INFLUENCED the election. The report indicated Russian accounts tried to interfere with the election, which, of course they do every election. That was not to help elect Trump, it was to create doubt about the legitimacy of our election process. Trump haters did everything they could to keep that doubt alive for every day of his Presidency
     
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    IF, the Russians hacked even one vote in any American election, then the folks responsible for making American elections secure, should be fired immediately.

    Furthermore, IF the Russians could/can hack or influence an American election, then certainly the democrats could/can hack or influence an American election too.
     
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    I don’t understand why you are having issues comprehending or why you continue to assert I should defend your own invented strawman.

    Does that typically work for you in conversation?
     
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    Where did I say they INFLUENCED the election? Even the post you quoted clearly stated it was interference.

    Basic reading comprehension please.
     
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    Did Russia influence anyone's vote or not? If they did then prove they influenced someone's vote instead of making false claims not justified by facts.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have no idea — I am speaking of Russian interference and Russian collusion, both of which are proven. Why are you trying to deflect with strawmen?
     
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    Your posts have been Fact Checked and found to be "Mostly False" and "Lacking Context."

    Since Trump was declared the winner of the 2016 Presidential election the leftist attack strategy has been to claim Russian collusion and massive Russian impact on the election intended to swing enough vots to get Trump elected. The strategy was to delegitimize Trump's victory, and failing that, to impeach him or paralyze his administration. The context to the backstory is that Russian attempts to disrupt our elections was not unique to the 2016 election, and the Russian hacking attempts were intended, not to help Trump win, but.to cast doubt on the legitimacy of the election process itself.

    Your posts can clearly be intended to support, or used to support, this narrative.
     
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    So my post is false but then you say Russia had not only interfered in the election but actively tried to hack the election. Which is basically what I said… minus the hacking.

    Fascinating stuff
     
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    Mostly False and Lacking Context.
     

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