Will you be willing to take the results of Muellers investigation when presented?

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Will you be willing to take the results of Muellers investigation when presented?

  1. Yes - I will accept the results - I am a liberal

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  2. Yes- I will accept the results - I am a conservative

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  3. Only if they exonerate Trump will I accept them - I am a Liberal

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  4. Only if they exonerate Trump will I accept them - I am a conservative

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  5. No - I will not accept the results - I am a liberal

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  6. No - I will not accept the results - I am a conservative

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  7. Other - Please specify below.

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  1. Turin

    Turin Well-Known Member

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    IT seems like Robert Mueller is entering the end game stretch. I think its important to know that Mueller knows a heck of a lot more about the sequence of events than we do, and we are not privy to most likely, MOST of the information that he has so far obtained.

    So that being said. When he issues his final report and recommendations to the Department of Justice, will you be willing to accept them?
     
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    Wont accept....witch hunt...sad, very sad
     
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  3. Turin

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    I personally have faith in his investigation and his unbiased approach.

    If he does not find any illegality with Trump and his campaign, then I have to accept that he did his due diligence, and have faith that he carried out an a complete and thorough investigation.
     
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    Turin Well-Known Member

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    As the saying goes. For a witch hunt, they sure have caught a lot of witches. :)

    What if his report says Trump did no wrong? you wouldnt accept that?
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    I'm a conservative, and I will accept the truth, with legitimate proof. Given that this investigative process has looked at all the Clinton mess and walked away dismissing it all without seeing a thing, and at the same time persecuting every thread associated with Trump like a pack of hounds.... I can't believe any honorable person is expecting truth. The double standard that has been solidly followed here is utterly beyond belief, and beyond what any of us would think we have aright to expect from the top people in the justice system.

    It would be a pleasant surprise, but given the trail behind this, truth would seem to be the last thing to expect.
     
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    They ain't seen nothing yet. Wait till Mueller starts in on the trump family. There will be so much crap flowing that even the republicans will want to kick trump's ass out into the gutter where it belongs.
     
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    I think your wrong here. Some will abandon him. The center rights and independents who were more voting against Hillary instead of voting for Trump.

    BUT, I think his hardcore supporters will NEVER abandon him no matter what he does ever.

    IF collusion IS proved, they will simply thank their Russian comrades. If he shot a pregnant widow in Times square at high noon, they would likey just say she was an illegal immigrants here to steal your job, and shouldnt have been here illegally anyways.

    His base will NEVER EVER abandon him. They are so angry at the establishment, they would rather watch the entire country burn to the ground no matter how many, or whom it hurts. I can understand the sentiment.
     
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    I voted other. Accepting or not accepting depends on what is presented, and critically, the support backing it.
     
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    Liberal or conservative, that should be the answer. Unfortunately, Don's rhetoric, and that of the sycophants who parrot it, have convinced a certain % of his followers to reflexively say.........."Wont accept....witch hunt...sad, very sad." They represent a clear and present danger to the country.
     
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    There's that "Mueller's report" again. Why do some believe there will be a magical final report? I doubt it will happen that way. It's more likely Mueller has already handed out more sealed indictments than a four handed Vegas card shark. It's obvious from the posts here that such a report would only ignite a left/right pizzing contest that would go on until solar death.
     
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    No matter what is in that report, neither side will be satisfied unless:

    The democrats will be satisfied if Trump is impeached and is jailed

    The republicans will be satisfied only if Trump is completely cleared.

    I predict that neither will happen and this discussion will go for all eternity.
     
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    I believe Mueller has been incredibly thorough. And his track record indicates this as well. Therefore, regardless of the outcome, I will accept that he has done all he can to uncover and prove his case.
     
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    His report is going to say that because so many lies were told, that he couldn't get to the truth of what happened.
     
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    1. I can accept the results....of Mueller's Russia collusion investigation. Period. Nothing more, nothing less. That was his mandate, that was his investigation, regardless of the witch hunt his co-conspirator Rod allowed him to carry on.

    2. I will not accept the fruits of the poisonous tree, nor will the law. I won't accept the results of an illegal witch hunt and fishing expedition, using Gestapo/Stalin methods and tricks, not investigating a crime, investigating a person instead, on false pretenses, looking desperately for a crime, anything, any minor alleged violation in order to overthrow democratically elected government.

    3. The "result of Mueller investigation" is nothing more than accusations, he is not judge and jury. Only complete morons will or will not accept it without listening the other side of the story, i.e. the defense and applying "beyond a reasonable doubt" or at the very least "preponderance of evidence" standard.
     
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    Witch hunts are bad, mmmmmmkay?
     
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    Depends. I won't accept any results that indicates that the will of 60 million American voters should be overturned via the justice system.
     
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    If anyone can observe what didn't happen in the Clinton situation and think the Trump investigation is not a witch hunt- I'd say you are talking to someone working for the head witch.
    You know this is true, you just lack the courage to be honest with yourself about it.
     
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    I will be willing to consider the evidence that backs any prospective indictments resulting from the Mueller Investigation with respect to any specifically identified laws broken by the Trump Campaign involving Russian government attempts to unlawfully interfere in the 2016 U.S. Presidential Election.

    As to any other results, findings, claims or indictments resulting from the Mueller Investigation? No unequivocally, no way in Hell, even if those results, findings, claims or indictments were aimed at Democrats. I consider ALL of the indictments so far to be illegitimate and outside the rational scope of what should have been a very limited investigation into specific criminal acts concluded LONG ago.

    IMO the "blank check" given Mueller was unlawful, unjust, ethically repugnant, equates to the worst kind of McCarthyism, and should never be employed again once this stain on American history is finally concluded. This has been very bad for the country and should not be repeated.

    The difference between this and the Starr Investigation is that the sitting POTUS served up a very actionable, obvious, clear-cut, nationally televised perjury repeated under oath, not the result of some perjury trap of faulty recollection or subject to interpretation, that he could have easily avoided.
     
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    I will accept the results based on the evidence provided.
     
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    I probably will. Its not his place to speak to issues of impeachment or pardons, or commutations, but I doubt he would anyway. I also recognize that they are recommendations, and the Justice Dept has an obligation to make final decisions. So the credibility of the Attorney General making the call, and his reasoning, will loom large in how I see the end result.
     
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    I disagree. I don't think it's close to being over. I think Mueller keeps going until he gets a rock solid lock down excuse to impeach and remove Trump from office or damage the Administration so badly that he cannot win a re-election.

    They gave Cohen a hefty jail sentence so Mueller will go back to Cohen again and see if they can "manufacture" statements to implicate the President. They have enough now, but they want more.

    The only issue Mueller will encounter could be a new AG. If the new AG decides he has seen enough or deems this investigation as a coup attempt or as illegal, he will end it and start a probe into the FBI/DOJ/Special Council. If not, Mueller will continue to go on until he gets exactly what he is after.
     
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    The report doesn't mean anything. It's just a report. The facts can only be determined if there is an impeachment and then a trial.

    Be careful what you wish for.
     
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    I want to see Jerome Corsi nail Mueller like he deserves to be nailed. Corsi's attorney recorded much more than Mueller and his team are aware of. If only 25% of what Corsi is claiming is true, Mueller and his weasels are in very serious trouble.

    I would be satisfied if Mueller ends up bankrupt and without a law license so he never ruins another person during the remainder of his pathetic life.
     
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    When I see what they are I will decide. Until the making a judgement is premature. I do not expect much out of Mueller, however.
     
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    Does not matter if anyone "does not accept" Mueller's report.

    Absolutely immaterial.
     
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