Will you migrate?

Discussion in 'Opinion POLLS' started by tecoyah, Oct 7, 2018.

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Will you consider migrating?

  1. Yes.

    12.5%
  2. No.

    37.5%
  3. Yes.....but not unless it gets bad.

    8.3%
  4. No...I will stay and fight.

    20.8%
  5. I'm too old for this shlt

    4.2%
  6. ...other....I'll explain.

    16.7%
  1. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    I'm not going anywhere. I change my environment to suit me instead of trying to find another. (and the only thing Canada has going for it is Healthcare and weed, It's laws on artistry are HORRENDOUS, do you know they don't even HAVE a Constitution?)
     
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    Politics is not for the faint.

    Step to the corner if one can't handle it.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What ideals and direction set forth in our Constitution have we drifted away from?
     
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    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    The Constitution is a framework of laws to support a country whose ideals and direction are outlined in the Declaration of Independence. The major ideals we have drifted away from in the Declaration are: "all men are created equal, ," The Document says "All men" not "just men born here and of a European background ", "all men" It also says we are born equal, not that people born wealthy are privileged over the rest of us. Equal
     
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    What men have lesser rights than those of "European" background?

    Keep in mind that the US immigrates more people to this country than any other country in the world.
     
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    Except I have no money as I am poor and low income where I analyze international markets for the sole purpose of tracking instabilities or weaknesses.

    All of us poor people are priced out of the stock market anyways.
     
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    That presumes all wealthy people are smart and intelligent where they didn't inherit their wealth.
     
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    Of course it doesn't. It doesn't imply it either.

    "If A then B" neither presumes not implies "If B then A"

    Stupid people can get lucky or they can steal.
     
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    Or they can wait for the collapse of whole entire empires and make their own opportunities then. Tick, tock...

    Also, there's a lot of very stupid low intelligence wealthy people.
     
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    You're confusing conservatives with interventionist rinos.
     
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    Yes, the question is why haven't you done it.

    There are, but they are under represented.
     
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    Underrepresented? If you say so.

    The current environment won't allow me but once a new environment arrives.....
     
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    They are most of the GOP and the conservatives are now the minority in party.
     
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    Yes, I do say so.

    As to the environment, remember the adage "The market can remain wrong longer than you can remain solvent."
     
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    Yes, my response was skepticism towards what you were saying. Believe what you wish.

    There's another adage, "What goes up eventually must come right back down."
     
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    I will stay and fight, whether Trump keeps Making America Great Again or the left somehow manage to derail it again. Either way, this is my home, and so it shall stay to my death.
     
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    I put other because all the other options for this stupid poll is based on the false premise that the ops idea that the US is moving away from our constitutional ideals and principles. Just more “omg I’m still mad trump won and goddess Hillary lost. I hate America even more now.” Whining from the left.
     
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    You're welcome to go to Mexico.
     
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    How about men in the countries under Trump's travel ban, I'd say that being forbidden to come here at all is being given somewhat lesser rights than Europeans who still can.
     
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    I intend to retire in Japan.
    I will migrate.

    This is not a politics related decision. Though politics can change my timetable.
    Had the UK voted to stay in the EU, I believe I would have left at that time.
     
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    I would consider migrating into the US if I can find a market for my products which I would happily manufacture inside the US either outsourced (Almost certainly the preferred route) or manufacture in house.

    If the Dem's got in that might change my POV but at the moment I see US as a good place to migrate into.

    I voted to remain Baff and if we had another referendum I think I still would vote remain but it's very close for me. I always felt Brexit was about illegal immigration and that if the EU had come up with a plan to control it better UK would never have even gone to the vote. Merkel drove the UK to leave and is driving France and Italy in the same direction.

    I want free trade inside the EU for business purposes it's hard to vote against your wallet and free movement for EU citizens (Otherwise it will effect my ability to work abroad)

    I am very glad we didn't join the Euro.
     
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    For me migration isn't the key issue.

    National unity is.
    Either I am living with people who wish to nation with me, or I am not.,
    It's about loyalty.

    I don't feel the economic issues of the EU are anything more than Project Lies.
    I actually think the chances are we will do much better once we leave.
    My ability to work abroad has not been hurt by this. My ability to sell into the EU also has not been hurt. And it will not be.
    I will simply make good products they want, and they will buy them. Same as the rest of the world will.

    The JIT trains I worked with last year were not exclusively EU, they worked just the same with external EU sources as internal.
    It's all bollocks.

    If Brits won't stand together as one nation united, I would be a fool to take that stand on behalf of people who will stab me in the back the moment I do.
    Better I reflag to people who will.

    If people are so desperate to make this nation too weak to stand alone, I will leave them to it. Sayonara and good luck.
     
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    I work quite a lot with Polish people and the ones I know are quite happy to englishify themselves. A large portion of the existing Polish population actually voted to leave it was over 50% because they identify with UK more than they do Poland now. The Lithuanian's I know are also happy to embrace England and it's culture. Most of the Indians I know also have totally embraced the culture but in Leicester we have a high 2nd generation Indian population or even 3rd. Kid that go through state school or even mixed private are going to integrate far better than kids sent to Religious schools (Although Catholic schools do let in other faith students, Muslim ones though no chance)

    Also my best mate was born in UK but family came from Poland. I can say from my experience he is more English than Polish for sure lol. His granddad came to the UK to fight in WW2 against the Nazi's and his my mates dad escaped Poland in the 60's to hook up with his dad. They still have Union Jack from his Granddad, he kept the one from the airforce base they'd flown from. Which they fly with the Polish flag to honour him on his Birthday.



    I am very proud of being British it's just my Britain doesn't exist anymore...
     
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    Yup Poles and Lithuanians are pleased to be here.
    And I like them and consider them friends.

    The concerns of the working classes for having them here are very much real and justified however, but I'm prime British Beef, no one can compete with me for a job I want.
    That is not equally true for all. I have been in that workspace and before where I was able to respect them but not their politics, I am now able to respect both.

    Immigration is a ****ing serious issue for the working class.
     
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    Well it does seem we are headed toward the principles of the constitution now, vote conservative in November to insure it.
     
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