Will you take the "third shot" or "booster" when you're eligible?

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Will you get a "third shot" or "booster"?

Poll closed Nov 25, 2021.
  1. Yes, I will get a third shot.

    61.2%
  2. No, I will wait to see what happens during winter.

    16.3%
  3. No... I never even got vaxxed before, and won't now!

    18.4%
  4. Yes, but I will wait a few more months.

    4.1%
  1. Nonnie

    Nonnie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sniff sniff, bs on that. Hardly anyone does. How dare they not listen to the experts, tut tut
     
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    ^Stupid post. BS, why? My hospital does keep track, and makes appointments for us to update the vaccines (in our annual review we need to show that we've met all vaccinations). What's so extraordinary about that? Obviously you have no clue about how a hospital functions, and how a hospital's Employee Clinic works. You call BS on something that is routine and well-established. Why am I not surprised? "Hardly anyone does" - well, speak for yourself and for your buddies, because EVERYONE does in my hospital. By the way, I don't really dialogue with posters like you, so this is the last post of yours I'll read, and the last one I'm responding to (you know why), so, have a long and happy life; over and out as far as you're concerned.
     
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  3. Nonnie

    Nonnie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So you're full of vaccines?????

    https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/vaccines-list.html

    You must have more vaccine than blood !!!!!

    Hence the BS comment. And so, BS again.
     
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    I have already got my third shot.
     
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    I'm done with the shots.
     
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    Get your third shot or be bitched at...Hmmm what to do?
     
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    The third shot is not mandatory anywhere (I don't like mandates anyway). It's a decision between you and your physician. If you are in certain categories that make the virus more dangerous to you, your physician may recommend it. If you are not, then you may not need it. I think people should listen to their physicians on this. It's not political. It's a health matter.

    But of course everything about Covid-19 is made political, which is very regrettable and is in great part responsible for how badly we collectively reacted to this pandemic. It should never have been political to start with.

    It's no rocket science. There is a dangerous virus around. It kills a relatively small percentage of people (and more the old and infirm than the young and healthy) but it is so infectious that the number of dead people ends up being large. But here is the other part of it, which most people don't think of: It also damages a lot of organs among some people who survive it; this has been shown to be as high as 30%, and this part does have an impact for even the young and healthy.

    Fortunately there are free, safe, American-made and efficacious vaccines readily available in a pharmacy near you. The vaccines have been given by now to about 3 billion people around the planet and while there are some severe adverse reactions in some people (including with some casualties), they remain very rare (contrary to what conspiracy theorists say) and much less frequent than the damage caused by the virus itself (which is particularly true for the mRNA vaccines made by Pfizer and Moderna; the vast majority of dangerous reactions have occurred to a vaccine that is not even approved in the US, the AstraZeneca - take out the AstraZeneca adverse reactions, and the vaccines are even safer).

    In Medicine, every treatment decision should be guided by the balance between the risks and benefits. There is no doubt whatsoever that the benefits of Covid-19 vaccination vastly outweigh the risks (by far, very far, even for the AstraZeneca, and much more so for the mRNA vaccines). No, the vaccines are not perfect and nobody has ever pretended that they were (they are not 100% protective and are not 100% safe, but then, nothing is, and if there is one very clear thing, is that the benefits outweigh the risks).

    So the logical and rational action (which is what anybody with a brain would be doing if this were not political) would be to take the vaccine.
     
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    This pandemic hit us at a particularly bad time, when we were in the middle of a tense and divisive electoral campaign. Politicians from both parties jumped at the opportunity to make of this, a political hot potato. That's what politicians do: they try to twist everything into a voting issue, seeking to get elected, and often for politicians, this is a higher priority than the interests of their constituents.

    I think that if we had been luckier to see this pandemic arriving to our shores AFTER the elections so that there would be less of an incentive for politicians to make of it a political matter, and more of the (correct) idea that this is a public health kind of issue that equally affects people of all political affiliations, we would probably have had fewer deaths and less economic impact.

    If you go to your primary care provider and he/she tells you "we have the meningococcus vaccine that avoids some dangerous cases of meningitis for people your age and with your health conditions; the disease has a potential to kill or maim you; side effects to the vaccine are minimal for the vast majority of people and much less frequent than the dangers of the disease it is meant to prevent, therefore the benefits far outweigh the risks and I recommend it to you; it's free of charge for you; do you want it?" - the standard response is usually "yes, doc; whatever you say; I trust your judgment on this; thank you; please give me the vaccine" and it doesn't occur to you to make of it a huge political issue.

    So it's regrettable that we managed (as a people) to make of this health matter called Covid-19, a political matter. We are paying a steep price for our stupidity (both economically, and health-wise).

    I wish we all dropped the political side of this and started acting rationality about it.
     
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    I got the two moderna shots and I'm going to wait a while to see where the Coronavirus pandemic goes.
     
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    You do probably have better protection than most, given that studies have been showing that the Moderna shot is superior, and lasts longer.
    Now, if the winter brings another surge and things start heating up again, you can always walk into a pharmacy to request your 3rd shot.
     
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    I have already had my third shot.
     
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    I won't speak for myself here, but one of my family members, who did get the vaccination, says their arm still "hurts like hell" every time they try to lift it or when it gets cold, 7 months after the vaccination. It started after a delay within the first week after their second shot, which is apparently pretty typical for "Covid arm". They also made a connection that their blood pressure went way up starting at about the time they got the shot. They were prescribed blood pressure medication for the first time in their life. Could just be a coincidence, but likely not.
    Right now this person is not sure whether they would do it again and get a booster shot.
     
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    "Could be a coincidence but likely not" - based on what, do you say "likely not"?

    You come up with anecdotes that intend to impress people out of taking the vaccine.

    If the point is an anecdote, well, I had the vaccines and my arm is not hurting and I haven't developed hypertension. My wife had the vaccines and her arm is not hurting and she hasn't developed hypertension. My son had the vaccines and his arm is not hurting and he hasn't developed hypertension. My son's wife had the vaccines and her arm is not hurting and she hasn't developed hypertension. My daughter had the vaccines and her arm is not hurting and she hasn't developed hypertension. Her husband had the vaccine and his arm is not hurting and he hasn't developed hypertension.

    So, that's six people versus your one family member (you say it's one and then you use "their" and "them" to further impress the naïve; nice phrasing and you'll fool some, but you won't fool me) - my anecdotes beat your anecdote. (Neither proves anything, of course, but two can play this game if that's what you're going for).

    You know what? I think YOU got the vaccine (that first like of yours, "I won't speak for myself here" is telling) but for some reason you are in this sustained campaign to discredit the vaccines (I can only wonder why; can't say because moderators would bring it down).
     

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