Will you vote for the not-Trump candidate, whoever he is?

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  1. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

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    Twasn't her crime he was referencing, rather the results of the policies she espouses
     
  2. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

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    Reworking trade deals reducing regulation trying to control the southern border and a lot more and it's slowly begining to work.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    No. It has nothing to do with disagreeing about how to accomplish that goal. That is simply not his goal. It's pure demagoguery.

    You could argue that his goal is to make America white. Or to make America more amicable to corruption, like Russia. Or to make America more profitable for himself and his family. Or to perpetuate himself in power.... But his goal is most definitely not to make America great. How does pardoning a bunch of crooks for no reason other than that they can contribute to his campaign "make America great"?
     
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    Yeah, but you'd be getting rid of a rapist, liar and a traitor.
     
  5. garyd

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    As I said you can see only what you wish to see. One may as well be trying to explain relativity to a chipmunk as explain what Trump is about to a Democrat. You just can't get beyond your bulletin points. Your head so full of stuff that isn't so that what is will continue to elude you.
     
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    Apparently you haven't been paying attention to any of those surfacing video segments on Bloomberg.
     
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    Why should I? I'm only concerned about getting trump out of the White House before he turns our whole country into a swamp.
     
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    Lol...He/she might even be for and against some of the same things as trump and I'll still vote for him/her because trump is a degenerate neurotic completely unfit for the job he holds. He knows it, you know it, I know it.
     
  9. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    I have shown my evidence for everything I have said on the various threads dealing with each matter. Nothing to counter it has been shown.

    Don't explain... show! It's what I do. And what I have challenged on my sig everybody on the right to do. So far... nothing!
     
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    HUH?

    He "reworked" NAFTA into almost the same deal it was. Point out the differences

    As far as the Southern Border...he's built NO new wall.

    Next
     
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    Huh? When will it start not being good? So far it has been awesome for all of us, including you.


    Still winning for sure.
     
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    In Australia they fine YOU for that!
    Just ask, @Sallyally or @Bowerbird
    or any of "them" :nana: passing as "us".

    I am watching Australia with Nicole Kidman as I write this too.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    As they do in most "civilized" countries. Voting is not a right. It's a duty!
     
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    Why Does The USSR
    come to mind
    ;)



    There is also FREEDOM.
    A good friend of mine is my age, American born
    and never voted once because he doesn't wish
    to impose his will on anyone else.
    What of his FREEDOM not to vote for whatever reason?

    Oh I know. I know. Epiphany +plus like a FLASH

    Register Conscientious Non Voters. :roflol:
     
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    There is a right to vote for nobody. Or to void your ballot. But voting is your responsibility as a citizen.

    There should never be a "freedom" to not submit a vote. Even if it's a null vote. I believe that people who choose not to vote in general elections don't deserve to be called Americans.
     
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    Yes, Australia is pretty authoritarian. I'd never live there.
     
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    Every politician I know of puts personal interest above society's interests. It is normal. Trump, though, has done more positive things for the society than any president I can remember despite his self interest.
     
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    She votes too.
     
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    In the USSR, I don’t think you were allowed to vote.
    Your friend must be very influential if his one vote imposes his will on anyone.
     
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    Yes you've shown your evidence of your own bias and little else. You've been shown evidence but you chose to pretend it wasn't real.
     
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    YES
    Great Turn Out Too for a One Party System.
    You Had To Vote or . . .
     
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    Exactly. Voting is an immoral act.
     
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    Here we have the opposite problem where those on the right try to prevent people from voting. Right now North Carolina is involved in yet another voting rights battle where the GOP is trying to mandate special state issued ID's to vote which citizens must purchase. Just a new way of imposing the Supreme Court banned poll tax.
     
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    I vote to try to prevent others from imposing their will on me.
     
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    Will you vote for the not-Trump candidate, whoever he is?

    No.
     
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