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I suppose I was confused by this:
rofessor Peabody said: ↑
Both are belief in something that can't be proven. The empirical data for God is the Dead Sea Scrolls."
So I replied....perhaps if you seriously addressed the actual topic I would be able to stay focused.

 

al gore is a politician... listen to the science.. politicians are just trying to get the message out

 

That is also very old footage as expected...typical and pointless.

 

juxtaposition noun

(formal) the juxtaposition of two contrasting objects, images, or ideas is the fact that they are placed together or described together, so that the differences between them are emphasized.

Juxtaposition is a perfectly fair debate tool.

 

…….neat......

 

Having them tell lies hurts the cause not helps it.

 

Science has no positive proof - only falsification.

But, it CAN show a degree of likelihood.

The vast majority of climate related scientists from around the world see human contribution as the only possible explanation for the climate change we're seeing.

What YOU are proposing is a world wide conspiracy for which there is absolutely zero evidence and no possibile mechanism.

 

Does this not place him on page7 of the conspiracy forum?

 

Amen! This would surely be a conspiracy requiring full cooperation of a population of scientists that would be just plain stupendous in size!

The idea that science would allow that to continue for decades is just plain silly - but then that's pretty much a conspiracy forum requirement!

 

Each experiment I did in Physics or Chemistry was to provide confirmation or proof. I was not attempting to demonstrate Hoppers concept. I suggest the Hopper devotees read all of his words, not merely a few of them.

 

I present scientists. Why are they dismissed yet the politicians believed?

I have hoped one day to read from the left an actual presentation by scientists.

https://judithcurry.com/2019/05/04/rebelling-against-the-extinction-rebellion/#more-24882

← Beto’s climate action plan

 

Confirmation, sure. Proof? NO.

There is no method of positive proof in the natural sciences. There is only confirmation and falsification.

We're still testing Einstein. We know that Newton didn't even know of all the factors - so, nothing he did could have formed a proof.

The same goes for today. We don't know it all. In fact, we know our physics breaks down, has problems with gravity, turns weird with quantum physics, etc.

In math, a proof is possible when one works with a full definition. In the natural sciences, we do not have that.

 

Both in high school and college, according to you. the teachers flat out lied to the classes.

You are clinging hard to Popper but not all scientists cling to his philosophy.

 

It's certainly true that they usually presented a model of physics and chemistry as if it were fact. It's a tough job, as they are required to cover a significant amount of material in preparation for further education, and stepping through each increment of evidence is just not in the time budget. And, it would lose a large number of students, too, I think.

But, at your age and mine, portions of the model they taught us are now known to be rubbish. If proof were possible, that wouldn't happen. We would have a body that was proven. And, we do NOT have that.

My science teachers also taught scientific method, pointing out what the process has in place of proof.

 

the right says man is not able to influence climate via their constant insertion of green house gases into into the atmosphere

common sense if enough people do it for long enough.. it will have an effect

 

that was old, times change, new data is learned....

 

Who told you that? First you did not quantify. How much CO2 are you talking of?

Surely not the barely minimum to service life on Earth? Do you realize how close to extinction this planet was at 180 ppm? 30 below and life would die off. or a figure of 150.

My chortle on this is if all of the believers accept man is about to kill the planet, why weren't they worried when it was damned close to the lowest allowed level in the past?

https://notrickszone.com/2013/05/17...-are-still-dangerously-low-for-life-on-earth/
Atmospheric CO2 Concentrations At 400 PPM Are Still Dangerously Low For Life On Earth
Atmospheric CO2 Concentrations At 400 PPM Are Still Dangerously Low For Life On Earth
By P Gosselin on 17. May 2013

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With atmospheric CO2 concentrations reaching the 400 ppm level, the media and a number of alarmist scientists have set off the mega-alarm bells, claiming “record high levels” of CO2 had been reached, and that the planet is on the verge of an overdose. This is based purely on ignorance of the Earth’s history.

Worrying that 400 ppm is too high is like worrying about your fuel tank overflowing when it reaches the 1/8 mark during filling.

Figure above-right: At 400 ppm CO2 levels are actually dangerously low in historical terms.

From a historical perspective, an atmospheric CO2 concentration of 400 ppm is actually almost scraping the bottom of the barrel. Over the Earth’s history, atmospheric CO2 concentrations have ranged from 180 ppm to 7000 ppm, see Figure 1 below. On that scale we are in fact today barely above the Earth’s record lows.

Figure 1: Atmospheric CO2 concentration is just barely above the life-sustaining levels of 150 ppm. For life to have real buffer against mass extinction, CO2 needs to be closer to 1000 ppm. Source here.

That 400 ppm is actually dangerously low.

 

Why don't you consider how close to life ending on Earth we were at 180 ppm?

We are not remotely in danger. Below 150 ppm and life ends.

 

This in response to a statement of how science works??

What I consider is that the vast majority of climate related scientists from the world over believe that humans are the major cause of the current climate change, and that it is a real problem.

You're trying to suggest that is a world wide conspiracy by pointing at charts and graphs that every one of those scientists knows about.

Sorry. No sale.

 

All part of man made global warming models.
The old don't be fooled by the sling shot cool down
effect, launching us into suffocating Global Warming

And if YOU still do not "get it"
stay tuned for the lecture regarding the difference between
weather and climate.

The cold you witness is just weather,
not climate


Moi
Can I sell you a bridge?

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A scientist that says the latest warming is "definitely" man made? Post the link please.