Wisconsin Absentee Ballots

The Supreme Court has just decided that if folks in Wisconsin do everything right...their vote may still not be counted

If legal voters fill out everything correctly...get their ballots in the mail and post marked before the election and the Post Office doesn't deliver it to the polling station on the day of the election

IT WILL NOT COUNT

There's nothing that can be done about that.

How do you cope with it?

GET YOUR BALLOT IN THE MAIL NOW

DO NOT WAIT

And that goes for anyone who intends to vote my mail

DO IT NOW

Don't let them take your vote away from you

 

I may be wrong, but I believe that is the law on absentee ballots.

The extension was because of the more difficulty in getting ballots in on time because of covid and delays at the post office. Perhaps valid reasons.
But perhaps the courts didn't want to mess with state laws?

 

I have voted absentee many times in the past. At no time, have I ever thought that my ballot would count if received after election day. Of course anyone voting absentee should send it in as early as possible to avoid any potential problems with the post office. If you are looking for 100% assurance, then the post office is probably not an intelligent option because mail can and does get lost from time to time. Several other options exist. At some point, the voter needs to take responsibility for their own choices.

 

While I think it is ridiculous that ballots postmarked prior to election day but delivered late not be counted, I think that anyone leaving their mail in ballot this late has no one to blame but themselves. Or they've been living under a rock for the past few months. We know that the mail has been slowed - so waiting until the last minute is reckless.

 

I very particularly did not comment on the reasoning or lack there of.

The rule in most states is that if a ballot is postmarked by the day of the election it counts.

The SC just allowed an extension in PA but not here,.

Regardless.

DO NOT TAKE A CHANCE>

DO NOT WAIT

MAKE YOUR VOTE COUNT

 

I take no chance. I will vote in person.

November 3, 2020 @ 5:00 p.m. - Deadline to Request an Absentee Ballot-Military - If you are a voter in the military, your absentee ballot request must be received by your municipal clerk no later than 5:00 p.m. on November 3, 2020.

November 3, 2020 @ 8:00 p.m. - Deadline to Return Absentee Ballot - If you have already received an absentee ballot, you must return your absentee ballot by mail or delivery to your municipal clerk. Your ballot must be received by your municipal clerk no later than 8:00 p.m on Election Day November 3, 2020.
https://myvote.wi.gov/en-us/VoterDeadlines

 

If for some reason you can not or do not get your ballot in the mail at least five days before election day...

TAKE IT TO THE POLLING PLACE AND DROP IT OFF

 

I have never heard this before. Do you have a link that proves this assertion?

 

Doesn't matter. Believe or don't.

The point is


DO IT EARLY

 

It differs by state. Most states allow ballots to be counted as long as they are postmarked by election day.

There is nothing valid about the artificially, purposefully created USPS delays. That was planned.

 

Vote early is fine. That is simple common sense if one is mailing in their ballot.

In regards to your claim that " in most states if a ballot is postmarked by the day of the election it counts".... If you do not have proof of that assertion then you simply made it up because you perhaps THINK that is the case. It does matter in regards to your credibility.

 

I take no chances, either. I live in an all mail-in state and placed my ballot into the collection box two weeks ago. Online tracking shows that's it's already been counted (Colorado began their count last Monday).

 

Do most states allow that? No waiting in line?

 

What you think of my credibility matters not at all

Whether I am correct about that detail is NOT the issue. It's not going to make any difference.

The point is that if you vote by mail


DO IT NOW

 

Splitting hairs. Nit picking.

Every state has its own rules. You should know the rules in your state by now. If you're curious about other states, google it.

 

Virtually all allow mail in ballots to be dropped off at the election office...yes

However CHECK AND BE SURE for your state if you plan on doing that.

Leave nothing to chance

 

That is correct. For most things that are associated with a deadline, it is the date of the postmark that counts, not the arrival date. Why? Because if, for some reason, the post office delays delivery, it is out of the control of the person who mailed the letter. Maybe the rule should be that mail in ballots can be mailed no later than 3 working days before election day. But, after that, ALL ballots are counted, even if received after election day.

 

I haven't done a lot of research on mail in balloting. I've never done it. I did absentee 1X, but I dropped it off.

But I did read recently, Colorado has been doing it for over a decade and has their processes working real well and probably the best mail in voting state in the country.
I guess if it's entirely mail in, they have to be.

 

If I had asked for the rules in my state, then your response would make perfect sense. Since I asked no such thing however, then your response is a textbook strawman because you are arguing against a point that I specifically did not raise.

If anyone is going to make a claim such as that, they most certainly should be ready to support that claim when called on it. For example, if I were to say that most people think that Trump likes vanilla pudding, it would be on me to prove that point. It most certainly is not on the reader to go hunt for something to disprove that claim.

 

Note that the SC ruled differently in the PA case, because in PA, the highest state court has decided that ballots that were mailed before election day will be counted, even if received after election.

Now, with Barrett on the court, the GOP is already demanding for the SC to revisit the PA ruling. It is so transparent: Stack the court with RW lackeys and try to disenfranchise voters. The GOP is truly anti-democratic.

 

https://www.ncsl.org/research/elect...-postmark-deadlines-for-absentee-ballots.aspx

Many do...a lot don't. PA for example has extended the date that they can be received (sensibly considering the pandemic and the USPS “problems”)

Shove your “credibility concerns”

 

Thank you for providing the link.

By my count it looks like 18 allow it and the remainder do not. That does mean that as I suspected, your claim that most do was wrong, but I do appreciate you living up to that mistake by showing the link.

 

Wow. You found a minor error in a minor point. I should have said “many” rather than “ most”. How was my punctuation? Aren’t you proud of your little self , bless your heart.

The gist of my post stands.

 

Hmmm.... So there are 50 states plus DC which equals 51. You said "most", when in fact it was only 18 out of 51. That isnt exactly a "minor" error when it was essentially a 65-35% split the other way. It is off by quite a bit.

If you had said "many" I most certainly would not have weighed in, because I did know that there are some that allow it. In truth, I was legitimately asking because I did not know, and I would have legitimately been surprised and would have learned something new if it was a correct claim. As it turns out, it was a false alarm. I am not surprised, but I am glad that the record is now set straight.

Ironically, we were in agreement about the "gist" of your post, which was the obvious which is that if one is mailing in their ballot, they should do so early. Duh. I saw your claim and was legitimately curious if it was correct or simply pulled out of your backside. As it turns out, it was the latter. I am not surprised.

 

I took a chance and voted by mail and mailed it at the post office too, so double the risk. But, I didn't wait around, I voted early, as soon as I got my mail-in ballot. I intend to check my voter registration data after the election is over to see if it says I voted this year. If it doesn't say that then I'll know I was jipped!