Wisconsin Mayor Launches $1000 Gun Bounty on “Illegal Firearms”

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  1. rover77

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    'The bounty program would specifically seek firearms that have been used to shoot into homes and vehicles or that were used in assaulting individuals, Soglin said. It would also allow informants to be paid confidentially and would not require an actual conviction to be made to receive the $1,000.
    “We’re at a point now where there are a number of individuals … who have little regard for safety of others as well as themselves,” Soglin said. “They are destroying the fabric of our community and peace of mind of Madison residents.”
    So which is it? Are individuals or guns destroying Madison?'

    great way to destroy evidence and make money... apparently the solution to violent crime is to target their tools??
    Capt Kirk : "like a poor marksman, you keep missing the target!"

    Source: https://bearingarms.com/jenn-j/2017/07/11/wisconsin-mayor-launches-1000-gun-bounty-illegal-firearms/
     
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    Individuals are what destroy the fabric of society.

    Once again;

    " Much of what Cesare Beccaria wrote in "On Crimes and Punishments" in 1764 still holds true today.

    Beccaria’s work has become the foundation on which many criminology theories use to build and expand.

    Often laws are promoted not by criminologists or "dispassionate students of human nature" but by passionate organisations with narrow minded goals and missions. With a desired end result of introducing legislation that suits their purpose only.

    One thing that is essential to any laws regarding criminal justice is that the laws be created by a "dispassionate student of human nature". Beccaria stated that many of the present laws were just "a mere tool of the passions of some, or have arisen from an accidental and temporary need." There is little doubt that the same holds true today.

    Laws should be enlightened, rational, logical and should be the greatest good for the greatness number. He felt that criminal laws should be formed with rational thought and not passions.

    On legislation; Let the laws be clear and simple, let the entire force of the nation be united in their defence, let them be intended rather to favour every individual than any particular classes of men; let the laws be feared, and the laws only. The fear of the laws is salutary, but the fear of men is a fruitful and fatal source of crimes.

    On the assumption of guilt; No man can be judged a criminal until he be found guilty; nor can society take from him the public protection until it have been proved that he has violated the conditions on which it was granted. What right, then, but that of power, can authorise the punishment of a citizen so long as there remains any doubt of his guilt?

    On oaths; Oaths are useless, because it will not make a liar tell the truth, "every judge can be my witness that no oath ever make any criminal tell the truth"

    On the prevention of crime; Crimes are more effectually prevented by the certainty than the severity of punishment...The more promptly and the more closely punishment follow upon the commission of a crime, the more just and useful will it be...It is better to prevent crimes than to punish them. This is the fundamental principle of good legislation.

    Beccaria wrote a short chapter on preventing crime because he thought that preventing crime was better than punishing them. He gave nine principles that need to be in place in order to effectively prevent crime. To prevent crime a society must;

    1. make sure laws are clear and simple,
    2. make sure that the entire nation is united in defense,
    3. laws not against classes of men, but of men,
    4. men must fear laws and nothing else,
    5. certainty of outcome of crime,
    6. member of society must have knowledge because enlightenment accompanies liberty,
    7. reward virtue,
    8. perfect education,
    9. direct the interest of the magistracy as a whole to observance rather than corruption of the laws.
    If these nine principles are followed there would be less of a need to follow the other principles of trial and punishments.

    On gun control;
    "False is the idea of utility that sacrifices a thousand real advantages for one imaginary or trifling inconvenience; that would take fire from men because it burns, and water because one may drown in it; that has no remedy for evils, except destruction. The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.

    Can it be supposed that those who have the courage to violate the most sacred laws of humanity, the most important of the code, will respect the less important and arbitrary ones, which can be violated with ease and impunity, and which, if strictly obeyed, would put an end to personal liberty--so dear to men, so dear to the enlightened legislator--and subject innocent persons to all the vexations that the guilty alone ought to suffer?

    Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve to rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man. They ought to be designated as laws not preventative but fearful of crimes, produced by the tumultuous impression of a few isolated facts, and not by thoughtful consideration of the inconveniences and advantages of a universal decree. "
     
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    Soon Hi-Point stock will go through the roof.
     
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    "How do you know this gun was used in a shooting?"
    "'Cause I used it."
    "Here's your $1000, case dismissed".
     
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    I can see the headlines now:

    WISCONSIN TOWN EXPERIENCES 10,000% INCREASE IN SHOOTINGS

    Friggin liberals and their stupid ideas.

    Let's pay people not to shoot us!

    You know, because tithing barbarians worked out so well for everyone in history.
     
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    I've heard you can sometimes find a Jennings for free, if you dig around in the hedge outside a courthouse. Apparently, a defendant will sometimes remember to ditch his gat, just before entering the courthouse, and going through the metal detector
     
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    Perhaps the mayor in question should be brought up on charges for some offense or another, as this program will amount to obstruction of justice by resulting in evidence being hidden or otherwise destroyed.
     
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    Gun buy back programs here in the U.S. actually encourages crime.
     
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    Libs for the most part won't have a clue as to the inference you're making. Hi point! :roflol:
     
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    lol...buy up old jennings,lorcins,davis, rohms etc and head that way
     
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    A very good investment.....
    Buy many $ 150 High-Points
    and get $ 1,000 each !
     
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    I wonder if you get a bonus if you turn in a ski mask or half a pair of pantyhose with the gun?
     
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    Madison is one of the most liberal cities in the country, so stupidity is expected. These morons are willing to pay $1000 and it doesn't even have to result in a conviction? The tax payers of that city are going to get hosed.

    Just imagine how many better quality guns the mayor of Madison is going to put on the streets with these payouts...
     
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    $1000. Can buy a pretty nice new gun.
     
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    This isn't like the Meth by back or meth recall put out by city officials to get dumb druggies to turn in their meth?
     
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