WISE Founder Teaches Muslim Women Self Defense To Protect Against Hate Crimes

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  1. FreedomSeeker

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    If you were Allah, would you then UPDATE the Qur'an today to reflect modern no-sex-with-kids higher moral standards? I would, and so would all other Modern Secular Humanists....what about you?
     
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    So I'm going to have to assume that you are not on the same high moral level as Modern Secular Humanism because you can't simply say yes I'm intellectually-consistent enough to have removed any favorable references to slavery in the main book about my religion.
    So can I offer Modern Secular Humanism (Harris et al) to you as a higher moral level, my friend?
     
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    No, not if you give your impressionable young children said book and say it's inspired by the all-knowing creator of the entire universe and said book says to KILL GAYS AND THAT BEATING SLAVES IS JUST FINE!

    It's time to move to a higher moral level, guys. Your children deserve that.
     
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    Revealing, that they are only concerned with muslim victims. Revealing that they just assume a crime against a muslim is a hate crime, when in fact it wasn't a hate crime at all. And the thought wouldn't even cross their mind on the other victims who were not muslims. Much like here in America when a white attacks a black it is too frequently assumed to be a hate crime, and when its whites who are attacked by blacks, its never assumed to be a hate crime.
     
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    And this is the religion he supports.

    [3.151] We will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve, because they set up with Allah that for which He has sent down no authority, and their abode is the fire, and evil is the abode of the unjust.

    [2.191] And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers.(*)

    [2.193] And fight with them until there is no persecution, and religion should be only for Allah...(*)

    2.216] Fighting is enjoined on you, and h is an object of dislike to you; and it may be that you dislike a thing while it is good for you, and it may be that you love a thing while it is evil for you, and Allah knows, while you do not know.

    [2.246] ...May it not be that you would not fight if fighting is ordained for you? They said: And what reason have we that we should not fight in the way of Allah, and we have indeed been compelled to abandon our homes and our children. But when fighting was ordained for them, they turned back, except a few of them, and Allah knows the unjust.

    [3.169] And reckon not those who are killed in Allah's way as dead; nay, they are alive (and) are provided sustenance from their Lord;

    [4.74] Therefore let those fight in the way of Allah, who sell this world's life for the hereafter; and whoever fights in the way of Allah, then be he slain or be he victorious, We shall grant him a mighty reward.

    [4.76] Those who believe fight in the way of Allah, and those who disbelieve fight in the way of the Shaitan. Fight therefore against the friends of the Shaitan; surely the strategy of the Shaitan is weak.

    [9.5] So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

    [9.29] Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.

    [9.111] Surely Allah has bought of the believers their persons and their property for this, that they shall have the garden; they fight in Allah's way, so they slay and are slain;(*)

    [9.123] O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness; and know that Allah is with those who guard (against evil).

    [47.4] So when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them

    http://quod.lib.umich.edu/k/koran/
     
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    This needs repeating for truth ...


    The video in this Muslim propaganda thread is an attack by this guy, Michael Ayoade ...


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    On two women, the one from the video was 16, and not a Muslim, or dressed like a Muslim.

    He attacked the 16 year old girl in the video because "he did not like the way she looked at him"

    Neither of the attacks had anything to do with the women being Muslim

    The OP is just trying to make it appear that way. I'm sure CAIR has instructed him to do this.

    So, not a "Muslim hate crime" ... just an insane creep attacking random lone women for imagined slights

    Here's the 16 year old girl from the video, who is obviously not wearing Muslim clothes, her face is simply blurred out. Muslim women don't usually wear 'skinny jeans'. ...

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    There is no mention in the news article of either woman being Muslim ..

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...conscious-punching-random-attacks-jailed.html

    In fact, being from Nigeria, it's possible that the attacker is a Muslim.


    So, the whole thing is a complete total lie.
     
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    Islamic extremism (terrorism, child rape, suicide bomber) is an affront to humanity. It is legitimate to fight and defeat the Islamic extremists.
     
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    Wow, utterly disgusting.

    Mind blowing.

    Islam is truly a violent gutter religion
     
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    Except we don't have any Christian clergy today advocating marrying 9 yr old girls, but we do have Islamic clerics advocating that very thing. USING the example of Muhammad as justification. Legislation they were trying to pass in Pakistan to forbid child marriages was recently rejected by the Council of Islamic Ideology as unIslamic, which requires the Parliament to reject the legislation.
     
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    Sounds more like a terrorist manifesto than a religion!!
     
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    Yep.

    And, also like the ravings of a psychotic.
     
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    Just remember, Stupid people cant help being stupid.
     
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    For those who have forgotten WHO it is WE are I will remind you.

    WHO WE ARE....is the Nation that keep's this little ball of mud and rock spinning.

    If WE....the United States....had not been around for the past century this ball of mud and rock would be STERILE!

    THAT...is WHO and WHAT WE are.....and why it's so important we never forget this.

    AA
     
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    You are confusing the Bible with the Koran. The Muslims live and die by what has been written in their "book". They live in another century. Most Christians realize that when the Bible was written, it was different times. I can't save your soul. Only you can do that by living a good life. All Christians are individuals. Atheists are individuals. Jews are individuals. Muslims are individuals,etc.There are good ones and not so good ones in every group. You can't pigeonhole people. Why don't you live your life the best you can and we will live ours the same way...if you want to be an atheist----go for it. I don't care...
     
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    Fair enough...Addressing the mercenaries, as soon as the job offers stop, they will no longer come. As far as jihadist? That won't stop, because it is indoctrinated by a corrupt religion starting at a very young age brainwashing young minds, infidel bad, muslim good, kill infidel, die by martyrdom, enjoy virgins with a pedophile....BIG DIFFERENCE! But I get your point
     
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    Here's what I say.......

    Hitler was a really bad person, like many other bad people before & after him.

    I don't know what makes people kill other people. It's something I've never been able to wrap my head around, and I label people that could murder innocents "sub-humans".

    I've never killed anybody but I have hurt people that have either attempted to hurt me or the people I love. I think most of us would or have, and definitely would if we were put in situations to defend ourselves.

    I think there are millions of people with bad wiring upstairs, and I also believe they have no redeeming qualities. Hitler ordered his people to kill an entire race, group, (whatever you want to call them) of people. (Jews)

    Slave owners killed millions of Africans, mostly for nothing, and they were quite barbaric about it. I could go on all night long about all the millions of people that have been slaughtered by insane egomaniacs through the centuries but you get the drift here.

    I stand by what I said FS, Hitler is one of those people that I could easily kill, and sleep well at night. I'd kill that turd a million times over if I could, and every time I reanimated his @$$ I'd make the next death more cruel & inhumane than the last.

    To your point, yes there are scriptures in all the bibles that talk about retribution for not following "the word", and yes I find that just as deplorable as people like Hitler that would kill millions simply because he didn't like them.

    But like I keep saying over & over again, most people don't think about those things when they go to church, or sing hymnals, or get together to raise money for the needy, or the hundreds of other things religious people do to help others.

    I have always maintained that religion/s has been the single largest killer of all humans since their inception, but I also do acknowledge that religion has given people a lot of hope, and done a lot of good.
     
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    Primality is a hard habit to shake. Especially for the victors...(which is why they survived so so long)...

    Look to any surviving culture and you'll find a blood stained trail of subjugation, exploitation and abuse.

    The only solution is to evolve. Rise above this (*)(*)(*)(*) and fly...

    Maybe by example these cargo cults, and their luggage, will be dispelled.

    [video=youtube;1Cq7hf4ylvY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Cq7hf4ylvY[/video]
     
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    >>>MOD EDIT Quoted Post Deleted<<<

    The problem with calling people liars while not fully doing your homework thoroughly usually causes one to wind up with egg all over their face - which is what's about to happen to you my sorry fellow.

    The young girl who was attacked in London was 16 year old "Tasneem Kabir"

    Tasneem Kabir is a Muslim name.............for a Muslim........genius.

    Kabir Family History

    Kabir Name Meaning Muslim: from a personal name based on Arabic kabir &#8216;splendid&#8217;, &#8216;magnificent&#8217;. Al-Kabir &#8216;the Magnificent&#8217; is an attribute of Allah.

    Source:
    http://www.ancestry.com/name-origin?surname=kabir

    Shocking moment hijab-wearing girl is attacked from behind and knocked to the floor unconscious as police reveal huge rise in hate crimes against Muslims.

    Tasneem Kabir, 16, was knocked unconscious as she walked to college

    Her attacker, Michael Ayoade, was jailed for four years after pleading guilty

    It is an example of the Islamaphobic offences that are on the rise in London

    Around 60 per cent of victims are women who wear a headscarf or hijab.

    This shocking video shows the moment a 16-year-old girl wearing a hijab was struck in the head in an unprovoked attack on an east London street.

    Tasneem Kabir suffered broken teeth and a smashed lip after she was hit by Michael Ayoade, 34, as she walked to college in Plaistow, Newham, on the afternoon of November 13, 2012.

    Ayoade, who is originally from Nigeria, was jailed for four years in February 2013 after pleading guilty to two 'vicious' attacks on Tasneem and another young woman.

    Miss Kabir's assault is an example of the Islamaphobic attacks being investigated in Inside Out London Special, which will be aired on BBC London tonight.

    It comes as police revealed there has been a sharp rise in the number of hate crimes against Muslims in the capital, with women who wear a headscarf or hijab accounting for some 60 per cent of victims.

    The 13-second video of Miss Kabir's attack shows the victim walking near the Black Lion pub in High Street, Plaistow, before Ayoade jogs up behind her and punches her in the head.

    But some London boroughs saw figures more than double. Merton witnessed the biggest increase, rising 262 per cent from eight to 29.

    Meanwhile, nine crimes were reported in Richmond-upon-Thames, compared to just one in the previous year.

    Fiyaz Mughal, from Tell Mama, an organization with monitors Islamophobic incidents, said around 60 per cent of victims are women who wear a headscarf or hijab.

    He told the BBC: "We also realized quite early on that women who wear niqab, the face veil, suffered more aggressive incidents - there was something about the face veil that in a way brought out the worst in the perpetrator."

    The Metropolitan Police attributed the increase part to a willingness of victims to report crime and an awareness of police staff in being able to identify those particular offences.

    The force said events around the world and holy days can also 'influence a rise in hate crime incidents' as more officers are on patrol and victims may be more likely to report crime.

    Commander Mak Chishty said: 'We will not tolerate hate crime and take positive action to investigate all allegations, support victims and arrest offenders.

    'Victims of hate crime must be assured that they will be taken seriously by the police.

    'We have more than 900 specialist officers across London working in our community safety units who are dedicated to investigating hate crime.

    'We are always seeking ways to increase reporting and work with a number of third party reporting sites so that victims who feel unable to approach police direct can report crime to non-police organizations and individuals.

    'Victims of hate crime can in addition now report online on the Met's website. No one should suffer in silence, so please report hate crime to us as soon as possible so we can act.'

    Source:
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...al-huge-rise-hate-crimes-against-Muslims.html

    By my count, I counted the word Muslim at least "twice", WHICH IS MORE THAN NONE AT ALL, and I counted the word hijab which indicates a Muslim at least SIX TIMES, and I counted the words "hate crime" at least EIGHT TIMES.

    >>>MOD EDIT Flamebait Removed<<<

    Enjoy it......

    Oh and one last thing Genius.......

    Here's a couple of pictures of just a few Muslim girls (of millions of Muslim girls) that wear skinny jeans.....

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    LOL@ completely missing the (*)(*)(*)(*)ing point.
     
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    WTF? You said Muslim women don't wear skinny jeans. You were proved wrong, yet again. One day you might actually get something right.
     
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    &#8220;With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.&#8221; -Steven Weinberg
     
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    Right............straight from the "U.S.A., U.S.A." crowd......

    The United States is a rich, powerful nation to be sure.....best country to live in - in terms of freedom, liberty, justice, and many other things.

    Keeping this rock we live on "livable" for everybody else.............not so sure about that, especially these last 25 to 20 years.

    This thread is more about people like this........(not necessarily him)

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    Harassing & beating up people like this.......

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    Just so we're clear................

    Because "that America" "is" the America that' we're slowly turning into whether you want to accept it or not, and that's not necessarily the America I'd be very proud of.......

    And "that's" something I'm not willing to forget......
     

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