without echoing NASA's statement, how would you defend this landing on the moon.

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  1. polscie

    polscie New Member

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    I do not believe that Man has landed on the moon.

    Could you tell me without echoing NASA's statement
    that Man has landed on the moon.

    In your own words please.
     
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    taikoo Banned

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    No tnx, you would just say I was echoing the words of Sigmund Freud.
     
  3. wgabrie

    wgabrie Well-Known Member Donor

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    Well, I heard that there are now mirrors on the moon, shoot a laser to the moon and it comes back, and that's why we know the moon landing was real.
     
  4. Wizard From Oz

    Wizard From Oz Banned at Members Request

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    An Australian TV station pirated the images being transmitted from the Moon.

    A number of armature radio astronomers reported picking segments of the radio transmissions from the Moon

    Alexey Leonov, The Soviet Cosmonaut slated to be the first Russian on the Moon has talked extensively about his feelings watching the US Moon walks

    In 1969 it would have been easier to land on the Moon than fake it - Compare the Luna landscape scenes from 2001, to what was captured less than 2 years later.

    If the landings where faked. Why would NASA fake a mission failure?
     
  5. robot

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    A few years ago read a magazine article suggesting that the moon landing was fake. One of the points they made was that in the pictures they took there were no stars. I know then that the article was rubbish. To take a picture of stars you need several seconds worth of exposure. To take a picture of an object in bright sunlight you only need a fraction of a second exposure. This is just basic photography knowledge.

    Not to mention Mythbusters did a program on the subject. Moon hoax busted.
     
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    You just have to be proud of our nation

    How do we absolutely know America landed on the moon?


    Aussie Pirates:D

    That and the fact that Parkes, Honeysuckle Creek and Tidbinbilla tracked the bloody signal!

    This will tell you more than you will ever want to know about the tracking, analysis and broadcasting of the signal - there were more than a couple of people involved!!
    http://www.parkes.atnf.csiro.au/news_events/apollo11/one_giant_leap.html
     
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    krunkskimo New Member

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    if we cant convince you the earth isnt flat i doubt we can convince you we've been to the moon.
     
  8. polscie

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    hahahahaha....that's funny.
     
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    Do we have the capability to put a spacecraft in orbit around the moon? Yes.

    Do we have the capability to put "something" on the moon? Yes.

    If we can put "something" on the moon, why not a human?

    We left things on the moon, wgabrie pointed out mirrors which we can bounce lasers off. We brought stuff back, moon rocks.

    I've seen the Apollo 11 command module, I've seen the Saturn assembly building. I've watched multiple launches from Kennedy and Cape Canaveral, manned and unmanned. I've watched a space shuttle launch both in person and thousands of miles away using satellite surveillance. I've seen the space station fly by overhead.

    The real question is, what would it take for someone to believe something? If you want to ask a question, state what would satisfy that question.
     
  10. polscie

    polscie New Member

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    so there is really this belief that a laser that strong could send its own reflection
    back to earth..... why do they have to undermine the distance between the moon and the earth?

    that a laser could travel in a very straight line without any distortion and penetrate through
    each and every atmosphere from earth to the moon, and still be successful in sending
    back a reflection that would somehow cement a proof that Man has landed on the surface of the moon
    in 1969, nearly 45 years ago.

    had this successful landing occurred, 45 years ago, don't you think
    NASA would have been exploiting this initial landing
    and make simple signs and progress of a possible human habitats?
     
  11. Wizard From Oz

    Wizard From Oz Banned at Members Request

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    The beam when it hits the Moon is nearly four miles across - The return signal is so weak it can only be picked up with photon counters and 95% of the time the observatory doesn't get a return signal. I could go into a long waffle about why scientists want to establish the distance to the Moon, but I suspect you really dont care
     
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    I would posit that pulling off such an elaborate hoax, involving literally thousands of people, and successfully keeping the secret all this time would be orders of magnitude more difficult than actually going to the moon would have been.
     
  13. Wizard From Oz

    Wizard From Oz Banned at Members Request

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    Two thoughts -

    For the hoax to be successful would assume the government would be actually good at something :)

    What hope is there for keeping this hoax when they could not keep the lid on Watergate
     
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    Hotdogr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Exactly. For every government employee with a secret, there is another who profits (monetarily, politically, morally (less often), physically) from exposing it. A hoax of this magnitude could not possibly be pulled off.
     
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    Um, OK. Man (14 men in total if I'm not mistaken) landed on the moon during the late 60's and the 70's. It was tracked internationally, the radio chatter from the missions could be picked up by hobbyists with a directional antenna, and mission video was broadcast live on TV at the time. It even got to a point where many people had already grown bored with the missions. Then NASA finally lost funding and had to cancel additional planned moon landing missions after Apollo 17.

    The missions that did reach the moon and successfully land brought us not only national pride, but a wealth of scientific data as well thanks to experiments conducted and observations made on the lunar surface, equipment left behind including laser ranging retroreflectors, and of course the many samples of rock and regolith from at and near all of the landing sites.

    It was a ridiculously expensive way to accomplish these scientific goals, but apart from that it was effective. It is, in my opinion at least, one of mankind's greatest achievements to date, even if it was as much a political stunt as a series of scientific missions.
     
  16. Wizard From Oz

    Wizard From Oz Banned at Members Request

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    It was interesting how boring the Moon was - After Apollo 12, most of the science was refining what we had already figured out
     
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    besides,if they faked it,why would they do it 6 times?

    - - - Updated - - -

    I know...I've seen 'The Dish'
     
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    Yeah I hear you - by the end of Apollo 12 Americans had already begun to lose interest

    A fun whimsical film :)
     
  19. robot

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    And I have seen the movie Apollo 13. They could not get any TV coverage until the emergency. Then they got heaps of it.
     
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    Not even the Hubble telescope can make out the areas where NASA says men walked on the moon with enough resolution to confirm the landings.
    http://www.telescopes.com/telescopes/canyouseeobjectsleftbehindonthemoonarticle.cfm

    Pictures released by the government are fakable so they're not proof of anything.

    The proof that the missions were faked is crushing anyway.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=347662
     
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    Ah, ok, you use the rhetoric trick to move the attention.

    The link you indicate talks about the flag and the rover --- in detail.

    Well, it's enough to see the shape where it should be, the traces, the shadow on the soil ...

    And I guess that to mention the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter with its images of the Apollo "landing" sites is useless [the LRO belongs to NASA, a known biased government Agency:salute::flagus:, so ...].

    But don't worry, i know someone at ESA. As soon as the European Space Agency will launch a probe to the Moon I will ask them to take a look at Apollo sites for you. Keep tuned :fingerscrossed: [from a lunar orbit the images have to be better for sure!].
     
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    No Earth bound telescope can resolve such small objects on the Moon. For once I agree with the spammer.

    They aren't released by government, they are released by ASU and despite your idiotic claims are not fake.

    The USA landed on the Moon as the record shows. Your attempts at spamming the internet with your pathetic wall of spam will always fail, as nobody except a few gullible conspiracy nuts who believe anything, will ever be swayed by your spam.

    Your "proof" answered and destroyed, useless point by useless point:-

    http://debunking-a-moron.blogspot.co.uk/

    And, since this spammer is as predictable as a daily bathroom visit, the proof that China faked their spacewalk is even more ridiculous:-

    http://debunking-a-moron.blogspot.co.uk/2011/07/chinese-spacewalks-part-1.html

    Get a life.
     
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    http://blogs.scientificamerican.com...oposal-a-joint-u-s-soviet-moon-landing-video/

    never heard that before, interesting quote
     
  25. LoneStrSt8

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    No proof the pictures were faked scott/cosmored/fatfreddy88/david c

    Your 'crushing' truth is bogus as well
     

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