Without Trump to blame, coronavirus turns the corner.

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  1. James California

    James California Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ~ We know. Somebody should tell the CDC and mask obsessed politicos .
     
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    CDC recommends the N95 mask, just not enforcing the wearing of the mask. If the N95 was the only mask people could wear there'd be a huge shortage not to mention the expense of these mask if we were to follow the CDC guidelines of replacing them every 8 hours or use the procedure provided by the CDC to sanitize the mask for reuse. The N95 cost $2 per day at the least if the wearer needs them longer than 8 hours a day. If you know this already are you wearing the N95 as prescribed by the CDC?

    https://blogs.cdc.gov/niosh-science-blog/2020/03/16/n95-preparedness/

    It is important to note that surgical masks, sometimes referred to as facemasks, are different than respirators and are not designed nor approved to provide protection against airborne particles. Surgical masks are designed to provide barrier protection against droplets, however they are not regulated for particulate filtration efficiency and they do not form an adequate seal to the wearer’s face to be relied upon for respiratory protection.
     
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    hmm, would you mind repeating that? I thought Covid was a guaranteed death sentence, at least if you listened to the media.
     
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    Esdraelon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Watch it, fella! That's dangerously close to "thoughtcrime".
     
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    Robert Urbanek Active Member

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    covid denial
    bubble
    getting smaller
    clings to face
    starving brain
    of oxygen
     
  6. sec

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    who in the heck denies that covid exists?
     
  7. Robert Urbanek

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    There are people claiming that the seriousness of the disease is a hoax and that it is no worse than the common flu.
     
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    without Trump getting in the way, the message is better getting to the public to wear a mask and social distance
     
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    the Q
     
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    Please show the science that explains why Democrat states are now opening up at the worst time when it comes to cases? Suspiciously just in time for Biden taking over. It’s almost like they destroyed their economies on purpose for political gain and are now opening up when it’s “safe”. The spread is barely a blip now. Perfectly fine to open up businesses NOW:)

    It’s so great now that it’s not even worth reporting daily death counts anymore. It’s like Obama and military deaths. Just vanished the day he took over. Such amazing journalism all around from a trustworthy MSM. So dedicated to truth and honesty. /derp

    Because science....
     
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    Not enough “people” to matter. Unless you’re talking about this person. She didnt think it was much of an issue either.


    This guy thought fear is more dangerous than Covid. GO SCIENCE!!!!
     
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    question: who is Cindy Sheehan? Answer= you wouldn't know as soon as Obama was elected
    question: what changed that Democrat states are now opening for business? Answer= Democrat in the WH

    in question 1, the war still waged but it was inconvenient to discuss

    in question 2, the virus still continues but it is inconvenient to discuss it
     
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    he was hysterical

     
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    Tell us again how quick other vaccines have been produced? Yea didn't jump on it early enough since it took a vaccine 8 months to get in arms. Yeap those mask and shutdowns worked so well in those lefty states right? There wasn't an avenue to do what Trump did with the vaccine and in no other time in history has it been done. We know the lefties hate Trump but sorry ole new idiot in chief isn't getting credit here it's all Trump and most that aren't political hacks know it.
     
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    A million a day being injected on time and you call it a failure, good god man.
     
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    The usage of a quality mask by one person talking to another person who is not wearing a mask reduces the flow of aersols by circa 50%. When both wear a quality mask, the flow of aerosols is reduced by 95% instead of just 50%, thus greatly reducing the risk of transmission of any airborne virus.

    This has been proven in video after video after video. It is well documented.

    It's very basic science that has absolutely nothing to do with politics.
     
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    oh Hallelujah! for Don the con! thank God he's gone!
     
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    he's a mass murderer
     
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    LOL why would you where a mask at home in lefty shut down states?
     
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    Go fish somewhere else you bore me.
     
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    and that's one of his better traits
     
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    did I say I would, no, so why do you ask such a question

    but you show how bad a job Trump did at messaging, gonna be hard for Biden change some people views now that they been made politicle by Trump
     
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    Video? you can see those little particle? I can't but then I'm old.
     
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    Yes, with an LED-lighting system and high speed camera you can quite literally see a marked, and I mean, marked difference in the amount of aerosols released without a mask on vs. with a mask on. This video is just one example of many:



    In this video, in the upper left frame, a person without a mask. The other three frames each show the same person with a different type of mask (upper right: one layer mask / lower left: double layer mask / lower right: surgical mask).

    With the high-speed camera, you can actually slow time down, so to speak - and in this video, it takes about 47 seconds to watch someone count to 10 seconds. The counting of the first 10 seconds is pretty helpful since most of the consonants in the phoneme-row are used in pronouncing those words. You can clearly see than unvoiced explosive consonants (S, F, P) spread a far larger amount of areosols than voiced consonants.

    At the 54 second mark, the session on coughing is demonstrated. Starting at 1 minute and 17 seconds, sneezing is demonstrated.

    This is something that everyone should watch. There is no doubt that the surgical mask provides the best protection and allows the slowest transmission of aerosols. But a double-layer mask also does really well.

    The entire idea of wearing masks is to keep your aerosols from getting into other peoples' noses and mouths and visa-versa. The slower the aersols move and the less of them that move during the time when someone else is close by, the the more time we have to increase the distance between us and another person when he or she breathing or phonating so that transmission cannot occur at all.

    Masks do not help you from catching COVID-19 by touching surfaces that may have COVID-19 on them, but even the wearing of masks in a room reduces the amount of areosols that will surely land on some surfaces (tabletops, doorknobs, latches, windows, smartphones, computer keypads, etc). This is why washing your hands with normal handsoap after you have touched surfaces and BEFORE you touch your face in any way, in tandem with mask wearing when you are not alone, is very effective in slowing C19 down to a snail's pace.

    Again, this is not an political issue. It is a purely scientific issue and has been proven time and time and time again. People who say that masks are ineffective are displaying an astounding amoung of ignorance.

    And it was the anti-mask ignorance that allowed the virus to spread far more rampantly, far faster and to "settle in" in some countries far more than in others. Further, where there is more viral load, the chances of mutations developing rise a huge amount.

    This video is just one of literally hundreds of videos you can watch, all from totally different sources.

    The Japanese have been wearing masks for a long time. It's a very strong custom for a Japanese person to wear a mask if he or she feels a cold coming on. This is why percentually, there are definitely less cases of the cold in Japan than in many, many other lands.
     
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    Trump lied, hundreds of thousands of people died
     
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