Without Trump to blame, coronavirus turns the corner.

The problem I see is having enough vaccinations for a second shot in 28 days. Will the folks who received the first dose get their second dose on time or will the vaccinations be used for folks who need their first dose? I don't hear MSM discussing this. It's similar to sending combat troops hundreds of miles into the fight and having logistics play catchup to provide much needed supplies. It's what we saw during the invasion of Iraq. It amazed me how all those smart folks planning the invasion didn't see that comment. I only hope the same doesn't happen with the vaccinations.

 

Those videos are impressive but they don't give justification for everybody wearing masks everywhere we go. It has not been disputed that these masks stop a spray of bodily fluids but what none of the videos will show is how much Covid virus they will stop or the range a hefty blast will send them. More importantly to my mind it does not show how many Covid virus a mask on a person standing near any of the sprays will stop. What your video shows me is that if i have Covid I should wear a mask to stop my sneezes and coughs, that is after all what those masks most of us wear are designed to do.

I have been to Japan and through all these discussions I have remembered that when someone there is sick they wear a mask. In none of my visits do I recall seeing everyone wearing one though. What that would indicate to me is that it is very beneficial for infected people to wear masks. Most of us wear masks because government has forced businesses to require them. Those requirements in practice are looser than one might think. Little pockets of resistance here and there.

 

Well you are welcome to your opinion, but you totally missed the point. The point is that by slowing down the rate of transmission up to 95%, this automatically means that you are also reducing the amount of transmission as well. Speed and mass go hand in hand in this case. Also, I never said that we should where masks "wherever we go". Also,with those two things in mind and the fact that it is impossible with current technology to know how much viral load another person has, this is PRECISELY why mask wearing is even more necessary especially when you are in proximity to other people, especially but not limited to indoors, also if you enter a room alone but a lot of people were there not long before and the room has not been ventilated yet.

I never said that everyone in Japan wears masks. I wrote that mask-wearing in Japan is very common. I especially saw a large group of younger people wearing masks while (very orderly) waiting for a tram at the station in Edo (Tokyo) almost directly across from the palace and a young lady from the group told me that they were all at a disco the night before and one of them caught a cold, so all of them decided to wear masks on the tram.

I will say to you that common sense must rule in mask wearing. If you are on federal property, but that property is a forest and you are a worker there and no one is there for miles to see, in the open air, there is no real reason to wear a mask. But in places where people congregate and can't stay 2-3 meters away from each other (and even if they can), it is simply the very best idea to break the chain of transmission. Will it break the chain of transmission completely? No. But will is slow it down to a snail's pace? Most definitely. However, it only really works if everyone does it, otherwise the virus continues to find new hosts to infect. Therefore, it's always a good idea to have a mask in a side pocket, at the ready, to be used when we get into circumstances where people congregate.

I personally am not in the mood to accidentally kill someone's grandma through my behavior, meaning, I can never know 100% if I am C-19 positive or not as the majority of transmission happens via asymptomatics, so I wear a mask, I wash my hands and limit my contacts to only that which is absolutely necessary.

Nice to hear from you.

Stay healthy, stay well.

 

I seriously doubt the 95% number. People who wear masks get Covid too. I carry a mask and wear it when I go in a business. I keep the distance from other people in checkout lines. I have not changed my patterns that much, I go shopping when and where I want, I go out to eat but it isn't as nice as it was. No menus or condiments on the tables. If I want to go out of town to a HS ball game of one kind or another I go. Masks are required for spectators but are not strictly enforced.

The places I suspect are checkout lines, card readers and places we all touch at some point. Bathroom sinks are in that category, wash your hands real good and then turn off the water and open the door. I know, I use a towel too when one is available but they aren't always. At that point, I know my good friend that led me in here didn't have Covid so .........

 

You are welcome to question the 95%, but it is scientifically proven. I also think that your own choosen method seems very commonsensical to me. You seem to be doing the things that will help to protect you and I applaud that.

The bolded: this is probably a good case where having a bottle of hand sanitizer with you is preferable to using such a sink.

 

52,241 dead on Biden's watch, in just 15 days.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

 

I see your point and agree, but those numbers are as meaningless and manipulated under Biden as they were under Trump.

 

Well lookie there. It started coming down the minute Biden was sworn in.
What a guy!

 

We certainly don’t hear about the daily deaths anymore. A month ago I got to see a New record set every morning on ABC. Drinking my coffee and the anchors would gleefully report on a new record on the numbers of deaths, since every day is a new record. Suddenly stopped the day Biden was sworn in. How ****ing strange Youd think Biden spent the last year developing the vaccine personally the way they’re reporting now. They’re so amazed that how many are getting their shots too. Like it’s more than just a few weeks ago. It’s almost like Trump never delivered any shots and it only started when Biden came in. Astounding the work he’s done so quickly.

 

Trump's plan is still delivering shots. Biden hasn't had time to do squat

 

Not according the MSM. Biden is a genius. His plan is so different and accomplishing so much more. /derp

 

Well, I'll be!

Look at ol Joe go!

 

Maybe Biden is moving so much faster because he only has to fight Covid and not Covid, the MSM and Congress/

 

My second shot is coming up in a week or so and even though my name isn't MSM I'll let you know how that goes.

 

This is absolutely 100% untrue. EVERY major news network reports the full death statistics every single day. Nothing has changed in that regard since the election, since the insurrection on the 6th and since Joe Biden's inauguration. I record these numbers every single ****ING day and see them on every single network, on every single network's website, also across the world in at least 7 languages, sometimes up to 9. Also, Pres. Joe Biden has talked about the deaths, the daily deaths, the death rate and what to expect in the coming weeks more in the last 2.5 weeks than Trump did all through 2020.

You are deceiving yourself because I sense that writing such nonsense makes you feel good. But it is still, at the end of the day, utter nonsense. Try real facts next time around.

 

Maybe Biden is actually interested in stopping the virus rather than spending months veering between wallowing in self pity and constructing a fantasy world in which is mighty election win was stolen.

What little interest Trump had in COVID he lost the moment he lost the election. Turns out having a President capable of empathy toward other humans and actually interested in doing the job is good for dealing with a pandemic. Imagine.

 

Spot-on.

Not only that, it turns out that having such a President and Vice-President and (forming) Cabinet and Cabinet-level appointees who are capable of empathy and who are working off their asses day and night to get this done without seeking praise and attention every single second really can and will provide results.

 

Specifically which part of the MSM are you not hearing discussing this? I hear and see it literally every day on CNN, on more than just one segment.

 

Nobody, and I mean, nobody is saying that everyone must wear masks everywhere they go. The same principles apply now as applied at the beginning of the pandemic. Joe Biden has never said "everyone, all the time, everywhere you go". That is just plain old crap.

Also, no one who is in the know says that masks will "stop" all of Covid-19. What they have been saying, from day 1 and are still saying now, is that universal mask wearing when we are congregated in closed-spaces is that mask wearing DRAMATICALLY slows the spread of all molecules that come out of the nose and mouth of a person wearing a good mask. And it is precisely that slowing down of the rate of transmission that allows people time to put more distance between themselves so that there can be, at least in that circumstance, no air-spread of the virus between them. The other very obvious added benefit is that this conscious mask-wearing is also drastically slowing the air-transmission of other sicknesses, like the common cold and the flu.

So, the three elements in keeping Covid-19 away from you are: sensible wall of protection (mask), duration of contact to others and proximity from others.

Mask wearing is maybe only 50% effective when one of two people is wearing a good mask. It is 95% effective when both parties are wearing masks. Who in the world would want to cause resistance to something that is helping us all? I mean, what kind of very, very perverse **** is that. Anti-maskers should shame themselves down to their boots, I think. I also think that anti-maskers should perhaps be denied all forms of medical care when they come down with Covid-19. After all, if they don't give a **** about other peoples' health, why should we care about theirs? Hmmm??

Also, the Rand Paulian argument that, "well, gee, I already had Covid-19, I don't need to wear a mask" is pure bullshit. There are now reported reinfections on more than one continent of people who already had C19 who have now caught either the UK or SA variant. Worse yet, most of the people who caught it again are totally asymptomatic. They only received the positive test result as they are required to test regularly due to their jobs, etc, otherwise, they would not have known.

I mean, the USA is careening toward ONE HALF MILLION dead Americans due to Covid-19 and you are seriously trying to tell me that there are quite literally idiots out there who are making this far, far worse by refusing to wear masks? Really? Damn, that is just plain old sad.

After more than 9 months of being patient with anti-maskers, hoping against hope that they would come around, I have no patience for them anymore.

It is also important to note that mask-wearing still has nothing to do with Covid-19 aerosols that are bound to land on surfaces that many people touch, from windows to door handles, car steering-wheels, etc.... and therefore, just as mask-wearing has been encouraged ever since the beginning of the pandemic, so is the regular washing of hands with normal hand soap BEFORE you touch your eyes. Because with over 27,000,000 confirmed C19 cases in the USA, it is all but guaranteed that C19 is living up to 72 hours on a number of hard surfaces all over the place. If you touch a surface that has Covid-19 on it, you are likely to get some of the virus on your hand. That virus is very, very unlikely to find an entry-port into your body through your hand (unless there is an open wound where you touched said surface), but as soon as your hand touches your face, then Covid-19 has ample opportunity to enter your body through your eyes, ears, nose and or mouth.

So, sensible mask-wearing and regular washing of hands using normal hand soap (really is the best) is a strategy that everyone must follow until long after new cases are approaching ZERO per day.

It's time for common sense about this stuff. It's time to end the stupidity over something this elementary.

Seriously, get with the game-plan, because it saves lives.

BTW, this just happened as I was writing to you:

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-in-the-world.569531/page-527#post-1072431888

Enjoy the laugh.

 

What has Biden done so far? Vaccinations? Thank you very much President Trump!

 

This stands out to me from the above:

"After more than 9 months of being patient with anti-maskers, hoping against hope that they would come around, I have no patience for them anymore."

People thinking this way will accept some pretty dangerous governmental interference. Who are we going to be as a nation when the fog clears?

 

Are you talking just on the website or the first thing at 8am because they are NOT reporting it the same way the were weeks ago. Sorry. Not deception just simply watching in the morning and observing the total shift in tone. I know it’s hard for Leftists to see the blatant bias oozing everywhere. To them it’s all centrist facts. You probably thought the MSM was reporting about the riots every morning too

It’s amazing how Bidens plan is working so much faster than it was a couple weeks ago. Oooops. No it’s not. Same ****ing plan.

 

On the other hand if you DONT wear a mask your chance of not only catching the disease but passing it on are almost 100% especially in areas where the viral load is high

Now ask yourself this - if masks are so useless why do health professionals use them?

 

Lead the country

co-ordinated efforts to actually get the vaccine distributed

set an example

Those are just a couple of things

 

".....all lies and jest, still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest"