Woman explains why she left ‘super wild’ lesbian lifestyle to follow Christ

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  1. rahl

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    I literally just proved this statement is bullshit. You even quoted the link that proves it is bullshit, lol
     
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    "there were no girly-men around me"

    See another common stereotype ?
    His posts are full of common myths and sterotypes.
     
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    Explain then:
    Men in Prison, they rape other men, how do you define that ???
     
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    and there you go

    it's a choice to engage in gay sex. One is not born wanting some gay sex
     
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    So it’s a choice, then it’s a mental disorder, now we are back to it being a choice again; are mental disorders chosen?
    You can’t even keep up with your own rhetoric.

    No one has ever said he action the engage in sexual activity is not a choice.
    Attraction is another issue entirely. You seem to have a hidden motive by refusing to acknowledge this.
     
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    Would you categorize men in prison that rape other men as Gay ?
    Or just men that want them some sex at any cost but would prefer a woman if women were available in prison ?

    Much like clergy that molest children, yet are heterosexuals, oftentimes married with children, not to include Catholic Priests that are unmarried.
     
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    That is the point, he reduces a relationship to a sex act in order to apply a bigoted view of LGBT relationships and marriage.

    How people have or do not have sex is irrelevant and immaterial to same sex Marriages.
     
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    Agreed.

    The thing people say is not a choice is being attracted to the same sex and not the opposite sex.
     
  9. Polydectes

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    I hate to do this but I think I should offer you a little advice.

    I don't intend any offense and you don't have to take my advice.

    When he says it's a choice to have sex and that people aren't born wanting sex he's a hundred percent right. But that isn't saying anything.

    The thing that people are saying that they cannot help is the attraction to the same sex and the lack of attraction to the opposite sex.

    It's funny when you present this to him he goes AWOL. Or he says something about being attracted to cigarettes or heroin.

    When he posts it almost seems as if he's trying to get people to attack him. I would advise against this because it feeds into persecution complex.

    It's like when those religious people knock on your door and hand you a catalog with Biblical readings and stuff in there titled the Watchtower. If you treat them poorly you're only feeding their persecution complex. If you tell him just to put you on the Do Not Call list, you are being polite they leave you alone and they can't go and talk about how they were treated poorly.

    He says things to trigger emotional responses.

    Just my observations and I just wanted to pass that opinion along. You can take it or leave it.
     
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    Like sure, I have not been offensive to him, I merely object to his narrative that reduces same sex marriages to a sex act and dehumanizes an entire demographic.

    People fall in love, I do not expect everyone to understand this concept especially if they were never in love in this manner.

    It is a gradual process, and when it hits you like a lightning bolt out of the blue, it is just as unexpected.

    I fell in love like that.
     
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    don't get me wrong I'm not telling you how to feel about his statements frankly I think they're f***** up as well.

    I'm not telling you anything I'm offering advice.

    in the most unlikely of places. It was that way for me to.
     
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    Is she sexually attracted to men? What harm is there in her making out with women?
     
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    It is like an old Ex hunter, he started hunting wild game at age 10, with a shotgun, 2 rifles, and loved to shoot his Grand-dad's Cowboy revolver he inherited.

    He was spouting an Anti hunting narrative, I found quite boring, he caught my attention when He stated he did not hunt anymore, as he was 75 years old, and had hunted 65 years, little wonder he no longer felt like hunting.
    Illnesses had finally taken their toll.

    Lol, Perhaps the wildness she spoke of was not so great.
     
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    one chooses to commit suicide
    one chooses to have gay sex
    one chooses to cross dress
    One chooses to murder
    One chooses to abort babies
    depression and other mental disorders do lead to bad choices

    thank you for raising that point
     
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    You sure do obsess over wanting some Gay sex, perhaps there is a subconcious or lantent desires in denial.
     
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    I don't think anybody was making the claim that one doesn't choose their actions. Making an irrelevant point over and over is argumentum ad nauseam.


    Why is it a bad choice to choose a mate you are sexually attracted to?
     
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    Preconditions ?

    I used to have coffee with a freind, a Lesbian,
    We were very good freinds, with me as a girlfriend type of freind, no sex, but an intimacy that most never experience, she had been raped at age 21
    By a much younger male, oddly, he was only 12
    However, almost 6 foot tall and her 90 lbs was no match for his 120 lbs, it was a horrible experience she wanted to forget.
    I cannot relate it here.
    So after a few years, she met a 19 year old female that had an almost identical incident, a young boy
    Raped her too, she hugged him, he hit her in the stomach.....
    These rapes were never reported since the age of the rapists were young enough to make the older females the guilty party, crying Rape !!!!
    To avoid prosecution..


    The women were married.
    It was not so much about sex for them, a hug, tenderness, compassion, caring, a tender kiss.
    Many will simply never understand this.
     
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    Sexual attraction is different from sexual action
     
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    Hang on a moment. Human have just as much capacity for deluding themselves as others. So she could well have been acting out and have been straight the whole time. Now all who are attracted to one sex are repulsed by the idea of sex with the other. Additionally she could well be bisexual, and is now dismissing any attractions to her sex as temptations. But her attractions to men may still be real, thus she is not tricking this man. Finally, albeit the rarest of the possibilities, it has been known that some people will have singular exceptions to their attractions. My sister, for example, is a lesbian. Only one man has ever turned her head, and she ended up marrying him. But, according to her, she doesn't really see him as male, per se. It is his personality and who he is that overrides her physical body preferences. So this man could be the exception for the woman, and she does truely love him and desire him.
     
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    Not necessarily. The bisexual potential is still there.
     
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    Wow! There is so much strawman and correlation/causation fallacy here, you need an accountant to track it. Just for the record, pedophiles are never prosecuted for being pedophiles. You can not find one law in the US that uses the word pedophile as an illegal status or act. The only law is against child sexual assault and one does not have to be a pedophile to commit that crime.
     
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    Nor does it deny one equal rights and opportunities.
     
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    Sadly, your argument fall apart just as much. One's sexuality is simply about who, or what if you prefer, one is sexually attracted to. It may be only expressed in the context of love, or it may be as simply be rutting around. The same person can do both, even at the same time (as in having a loving relationship and getting sex from someone else.) Sexuality has nothing to do with love relationships, or sex. It has only to do with attractions. While it can influence those things, the relationship (no puns intended) is neither locked nor automatic.
     
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    She could have climbed the Beanstalk and thought was a giant to catch a Magic Hen who cares what could have been
     
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    My so called argument did not fall apart as you simply repeated what I said,

    I refuted this following statement.......

    "sec said:
    you keep trying that schtick as if it would offend me. If you enjoy taking deliveries to the rear then good for you. It doesn't entitle you to any special considerations."

    The part I refute is reducing a Relationship of two people to an act of Anal Sex, and News Flash, ......
    Some don't....


    So much for your wish...
     

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