Women have equality. Why are they upset with paying alimony and child support?

Sorry that you cannot follow the line of reasoning. It is very logical. Are you a democrat? Now follow the conversation from the beginning and eventually you might get it.

Read post 390

 

Really. In the long run, it is certainly a whole bunch cheaper.

 

Please read or watch the news, it will make it much easier. It has been in the front page of many papers and news on line this last week. Just sayin.

 

I asked a specific question to which you have failed to answer. Give a specific reason to my question or bother someone else with your nonsense

 

Great posts.

 

Or...two people love each other and want to spend their lives together and don’t give a rats a$$ about some god.

 

I have read similar. If you look at two people doing the same work - the gender pay gap has mostly disappeared. Sure you can find all kinds of bad use of statistics by Nazi Feminist groups .. (not sure what else to call them since they certainly do not represent all feminists and nor do they represent equality or objectivity).

Often you will hear quotes of "overall statistics" - which means they are looking at all women - including those who choose to stay home and raise children.

If you look at studies of women with no children doing the same work .. the pay gap disappears. Equal pay for Equal work is the norm.

 

I don't bother anyone. You can make a choice to pass it by. The point shown in post 390 is that the courts can make up anything they want, and you and I are screwed by it. It is the 9 Unelected supreme court justices that ultimately rule our nation, not the legislature or executive branches, and the majority of judges are appointed, not elected, so they have no response to the needs of the people. It is an old saying that we are ruled by "nine unelected tyrants, and for life no less. The Achilles heel of the constitution.

 

Did he get specific? I may have missed that. I've known a few divorced Dad's that don't refer to adopted kids as theirs......at child support time.

 

The US Supreme court rules on individual divorce cases, do they? You keep failing. Go away.

 

Yes, you did miss it.

Those divorced dad's can refer to their adopted kids as not theirs all they want but legally they are their kids.

 

They are upset for the same reason that we men are upset. I welcome women to the male divorce club. We are an equal opportunity
free membership group.

 

I do love Denise, but I don't answer to her the way I answer to God. I do not fear Denise the way I fear God. My marriage is between Denise, God and me. I don't believe that Denise and I would make it without Him being central in our marriage.

 

Whatever works for ya

 

Haven't heard any news organization call it " fake news" and neither have you.

 

Unless women take responsibility for what they've done then it won't change. Oh wait. Yes it is. Because they are going to jail and having to take credit when they mess up stuff.

 

I have seen women enter fields of employment over the past couple of decades that were literally frozen from them for most of human history. I include firefighters, law enforcement officers, astronauts, jet pilots, jet fighter pilots, engineers, governors, CEOs, surgeons, mine workers, and even almost President of the U.S. Women are proving themselves equal to men in every way imaginable, and even some was unimaginable. Good for them. I support having a totally open door policy for women in every conceivable profession or job.

 

And does this mean you support them in a total open door policy for women to accept all the bad things that come with these responsibilities also? This means child support and alimony whether it's bs or not?

 

I think what they are upset about is losing their children, same as a man is upset with - it's sucks more to lose your child and have to pay child support for someone else to spend on your child on top of that (especially if the money is not going to the child like it should)

 

is it though, if the custodial parent has 3 other kids, does the one kid live better or does it also go to support the other 3 as well

if the non-custodial parent has 3 more kids, they get less cause of the child support

if the custodial parent re-marries, that child support also supports the new husband and possibly his kids

it's a tricky one, child support was originally design to make well off non-custodial parents help support their children, what it turned into was something to try and keep poorer middle class men from having children

 

If what you claim is true, then I would be very happy. When I first responded to this topic, I went to Google and asked about current wage discrepancies between men & women. Google said in 2015 it stood overall at about 20%, and in 2016 at 18%. I didn't research further, but I hope your figures are more accurate. That would indicate we have progressed further and faster than I'd ever hoped.

 

Yes I do.

 

Are you saying that when an employer offers a job to a woman they pay higher to a woman who has no kids? How would the employer know they don't ever intend on having kids? That isn't something an employer can ask.
Can you show me where study's have included stay at home mom's when looking at women's pay as compared to men?

 

Your figure probably is accurate- when you include women who have kids. This was quite some time ago that I read this study. I am sure there are some areas where the disparity exists .. or the idea that different choices - Psychology over science or some such thing - this is changing to though. 60% in university are now women and many are taking science.

In terms of equal work - no way in any publicly traded corp is there going to be a discrepancy. Nor in Gov't. It is just not tolerated nor accepted. Maybe in some small private company where the boss is male and a dick ... other than that I do not think it exists.

 

Nope ... but if a woman leaves the work force to raise children - obviously she is not making much money. Further, if she stays out of the workforce and comes back years later - she will be a bit behind.

If you compare equal work ... the pay discrepancy is pretty much gone.