Women want their babies back, but it's too late

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  1. FoxHastings

    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    It is not a reason at all....it is not a part of a reason, it is not an eighth of a reason..... there is no reason to take away women's rights at all ever...
    your flailing around desperately trying to find a reason, any silly asinine reason, to take away women's rights is quite pathetic...(and only slightly amusing)










    ..................when one has to search and stretch and talk about panda bears:teddy: and make up imaginary weird scenarios then one obviously has NO good reason to take away women's rights and ban abortion ....thank you for making that soooo obvious :)
     
  2. Junkieturtle

    Junkieturtle Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yes it does, when it's something as universal as regret. And it can be used in the reverse just as easily. There are folks who regret having children. Is that part of an argument against giving birth? I am pro-choice and I do not think it is, but your logic here dictates that it must be.
     
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  3. Renee

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    It shouldn’t have anything to do with the choice. Shall we ban vasectomies because some guys regret it? Shall we ban marriage because half of the people regret it?
    There are some people regret a lot of things and it should not contribute to anything. There are millions and millions of women who are very content with their decisions. It almost sounds patronizing
     
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  4. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It sounds patronizing to the unborn to say "women know best".
     
  5. FoxHastings

    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    Again , you seem to have a difficult time addressing pertinent posts....what's the matter, don't you have a good argument ?

    It IS patronizing for anyone to say they know what's best for pregnant women.....It IS patronizing to try to tell women what to do with their lives and bodies...


    I don't give a flying fig what it sounds like to a fetus....
     
  6. Renee

    Renee Well-Known Member

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    Well maybe to you a zygote is smarter and knows more....but in my world a woman knows better.
     
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    mamooth Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There are also many women who regret having children. By the OP's logic, that strongly bolsters the case for abortion being available.

    By normal logic, it means nothing. People regret many things. As a previous poster said, welcome to life.

    And yes, there are many such women. They just don't make public messages about it, being it would lead to hate campaigns against them from the morally upright crowd.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Adoption.
     
  9. FoxHastings

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    Again , you seem to have a difficult time addressing pertinent posts....what's the matter, don't you have a good argument ?


    What does "adoption" mean?


    Seems patronizing for you to think women should do what you want...
     
  10. Renee

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    Love it when a man tells a woman to go through an unwanted pregnancy for nine months, with health risks, go through agonizing labor and just give it away...
    As flo Kennedy said..if men got pregnant, abortion would be a sacrament
     
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    To be fair, I can see where they're coming from in the sense that a lot could be expected of somebody in the effort to save a person. It's like a sister can't be compelled to donate her kidney to save her brother, but her refusal would be tragic if there's no alternative. But since I don't view a fetus as a person, the notion of adoption seems ridiculous to me as well.
     
  12. FoxHastings

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    Yes, NO one can be compelled to give their kidney or other body part to another...

    ..yet Anti-Choicers demand that women must give their entire body and nine months of their life (which affects the rest of their life) to "another" ..
     
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    Good thing YOUR mother elected to give nine months of her life towards gestating YOU.

    Of course, she could have just pulled the plug halfway through.
     
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    And if she did I wouldn’t be here...and if Hitler’s mother did, he wouldn’t have been there..and if I got pregnant the week before I would have had a different child . You don’t miss what you never knew or had
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    ..yet Anti-Choicers demand that women must give their entire body and nine months of their life (which affects the rest of their life) to "another" ..



    :) Your usual " I can't address the post so I'll segue off into some other topic" evasion....



    Do you believe that if a person needs a new heart or kidney or a blood transfusion they should be able to force you to give them yours?


    BTW, DUH, if my mother had aborted me I wouldn't have known anything about it....
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But a pregnant woman knows she has a child. You can deny this all you want, but the fact is the majority of women grieve, to some extent or another.
     
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    NO, she has a fetus. You can deny that all you want but it will still be a fetus.


    IT IS ANTI-CHOICERS WHO WANT TO FORCE WOMEN TO LOOK AT THE ULTRASOUND OF THEIR FETUS WHO THINK WOMEN DON'T KNOW THEY'RE PREGNANT..




    YOU have NO way of proving this.....


    AND IT DOES NOT MATTER HOW THEY FEEL...


    you haven't shown what it has to do with women's right to their own bodies...




    People grieve over their dead pets...should we ban pets?

    Wouldn't it be amazing if you actually answered that question!!!!!???
     
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    There it is again..mansplaining!
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Looks like a few clinics are even offering bereavement services now, trying to cash in on the additional money:
    Abortion Clinics Offer Women “Grief and Burial Support” After Aborting Their Babies

    Apparently providing women with bereavement services who experienced miscarriage or prenatal loss isn't uncommon in New Zealand:
    https://obgyn.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/ajo.12661

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-155458/Therapy-bereavement-abortion.html
     
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  20. FoxHastings

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    So now they are offering Grief and Burial support instead of just disposing of the remains and you slam that , too!!!

    You: ""trying to cash in on the additional money"""

    WTF?

    You keep contradicting yourself.....:):teddy:






    People grieve over their dead pets...should we ban pets?

    Wouldn't it be amazing if you actually answered that question!!!!!???
     
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