Women who get MULTIPLE abortions

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  1. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    “A number of patients used – or abused, depending on one’s moral perspective – their right to abortion in ways that forced me to question the depth of my own pro-choice stance. For example, I was deeply troubled by “repeaters,” women who came to us for their third, fourth, or fifth abortion, and who often exhibited lifelong histories of spotty – or no – contraceptive use. I also struggled with women who waited until well into their second trimester before presenting themselves for elective terminations. These cases, which on the surface smack of personal irresponsibility, [upset] me because I felt they made the pro-choice platform even more vulnerable to critics.… I’m a bit hesitant to admit that the tough cases took a personal toll as well. They tarnished my innocently romanticized version of abortion as a difficult but worthy, and even admirable, decision.”
    Jenny Higgins, abortion clinic worker, who is also a former abortion patient herself

    Jenny Higgins “Sex, Unintended Pregnancy, and Poverty: One Woman’s Evolution from “Choice” to “Reproductive Justice” from Krista Jacob. Abortion under Attack: Women on the Challenges Facing Choice (Emeryville, CA: Seal Press, 2006) 35


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    Another abortion clinic worker described some of her patients as "frequent fliers":
    “In the clinic world, repeat visitors are called, not unkindly, “frequent fliers.” The reason that casual term is not an insult is simply due to how common multiple abortions are. [...] Virtually everyone I’ve spoken to was working the clinic has a story of one patient who had not two or three abortions, but 20 or more despite contraceptive counseling with each clinic visit.”

    Jennifer Baumgardner, “Twice is a Spanking” from the pro-choice book by Krista Jacob. Abortion under Attack: Women on the Challenges Facing Choice (Emeryville, CA: Seal Press, 2006) 222


    From another abortion doctor:
    “I’ve had lots of patients who come in for second, third, fourth, fifth, even one who had nine abortions.”

    from an interview by Martin Bashir on Nightline, January 11, 2006, with William Harrison, M.D.


    A nurse who worked at an abortion clinic was asked in an online interview whether she had seen the same women getting several abortions, or if any of the women were using abortion as a method of birth control. She responded:
    "Unfortunately yes. Their contraceptive choices are always stressed at these appointments but some women simply do not wish to use birth control."

    (source: http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comment...ortion_clinic/ )


    Former abortion clinic worker says women used abortion as a “birth control measure”:
    “When I first started out nursing in the late 70′s I was working for the Ob/Gyn physicians in this hospital. My duties were not only to care for those that were in for abortions, I also cared for the older folks having hysterectomies and so forth. I didn’t have a personal opinion on abortion until I saw how many were done and for the multitude of ridiculous reasons. Not to mention the actual procedure itself and the “aftermath”. It wasn’t until a few years afterwards that I started to feel this wasn’t right. That is when I transferred to a different department and hospital completely. . . Plus you must understand, I worked for a hospital smack dab in the middle of NYC, I got to know some of the girls getting these abortions on a first name basis, since they had them so often. That really got under my skin, seeing these girls using it as a birth control measure. And why shouldn’t they? The state paid for it anyway! Just not right!”
    (originally posted on the Women.com message board)

    Carole Meyers OB GYN, who has performed “hundreds of abortions” and worked as medical director of Planned Parenthood of Maryland, addressed a crowd of medical students at John Hopkins University who were considering training to become abortion doctors:
    "... What about the woman who comes in for her third abortion and doesn’t want to hear about birth control? How are you going to feel about that? I’ll tell you how I feel. I get mad, frustrated, angry."


    It’s also interesting to note that this abortionist, like many others who work in clinics, gets frustrated and angry at women who have multiple abortions. If abortion is such a benign procedure, merely the removal of some products of conception and ending a pregnancy, why does it matter if some women have more than one? Why does it matter if she decides to rely on abortion instead of birth control? The truth is, the abortion doctor sees the little babies that were torn apart in every abortion and knows the cost that these little human lives pay. Many of these doctors are disturbed by the act of abortion itself – pulling pieces of arms and legs off of babies or tearing them apart with the suction machine is not a very easy thing to do emotionally.

    Medical school professor Dr. Russell L McIntyre attempted to explain why abortion practicioners frowned on repeat abortion patients:
    “Once conception has occurred…. very few physicians afford the product of that conception “zero” value. It may be less valuable than other concerns surrounding the woman’s life, but it is never totally valueless. The conflict is thus between “reasonable” justification for abortion and the woman’s apparent lack of any regard for fetal life that has been begun in her. Physicians facing these “repeaters” in abortion clinics often develop the very uncomfortable feeling that their own value system has been co-opted by a valueless system.”


    So a question: If one abortion is OK, how about 3, or 10 ?
    Is that still OK ?
    It's the woman's right to be as irresponsible as she wants, right?

    While it's true most women who get an abortion only get one during their lifetime, I would imagine that the majority of abortions are on account of these “repeaters”, a smaller handful of irresponsible women hog up the greater share of the abortions that are performed. (At least in the U.S., maybe women in other countries are more responsible)

    Now in many of these cases, nature takes its own course and, after a couple of abortions, the woman is unable to get anymore because she has lost the ability to get pregnant, with all that scar tissue in her uterus. I'd imagine if it wasn't for that there'd be seventy thousand more abortions a year. (It's still tragic for these women though)
     
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    From YOUR post , """While it's true most women who get an abortion only get one during their lifetime,"""

    Abortions are legal no matter how many you get.....why do you think women should be rationed ? Should men only have so many heart operations? Get only so much Viagra?


    Women have NO obligation to use birth control.














    What IS the difference between one woman getting 4 abortions and four women each getting one abortion?
     
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    Rest of post tl;dr

    I don't care how many abortions a woman has. If one is okay, then so is 10.
     
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    You are a frequent flier in the abortion section. If you really cared, you would take action. Would that make you a frequent liar?
     
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    First of all, that is not a nine week fetus....it weighs a fraction of an ounce
     
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    They're careless I agree....but an abortion is not a fun procedure
     
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    You don’t have to consider abortion “OK” to oppose it being heavily restricted or even criminalised. The situations described here aren’t good but the abortion aspect is only one small part of that. There will be all sorts of reasons why these women are having unprotected sex but want to (or feel the need to) have abortions when they fall pregnant. It seems like nobody cares about any of that though, just the blind count of abortions.

    As much as it is anyone else’s. Women have the same rights as you and me. What makes you imagine that anyone wants to be irresponsible though?
     
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    :) Another "Ran and hid"...............


    From YOUR post , """While it's true most women who get an abortion only get one during their lifetime,"""

    Abortions are legal no matter how many you get.....why do you think women should be rationed ? Should men only have so many heart operations? Get only so much Viagra?


    Women have NO obligation to use birth control.














    What IS the difference between one woman getting 4 abortions and four women each getting one abortion?
     

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