Women's rights in Afghanistan have fallen off a cliff, everyone ignoring it

NPR did an interview with Ramita Navai about her documentary "Afghanistan Undercover". (August 2022)

You can find a transcript of the interview here:
'Afghanistan Undercover' details the Taliban's mistreatment of women and girls : NPR

Things are getting really terrible for women in Afghanistan, but it has not been getting much attention in the media.
This is probably due to two factors: (1) The conflict in Ukraine has distracted attention away from Afghanistan. (2) The media is reluctant to report about what's going on in Afghanistan because it could make President Biden look bad. (The pullout of American forces was a decision made by Biden. And besides human interest stories about women's rights are not something conservative media usually reports about. Conservative media also has much less funding to be able to investigate things going on in other countries, and in any case the worldview of conservatives tends to be less global)

A short summary of the interview, the Taliban are abducting girls and young women into forced marriages with Taliban fighters. There is evidence that provincial Taliban commanders are complicit in this. It's dangerous for young women to even show their faces in public, because some Taliban member might find them attractive and want to marry them. Even if they do cover up in the burka, there are spies, and if a neighbor sees her, he might report that there is an attractive unmarried girl who lives there, and it could attract the attention of Taliban members looking to take a bride. Taliban members are also kidnapping brides from the distant provinces in places where young women are not abiding by the rules and wearing the burka.

 

Who could have known negotiating with a terrorist origination and omitting the local government completely would have ended so poorly?

If anyone wants to be amazed — compare and contrast the Taliban and American Republican platforms.

 

Whew! For a moment I thought you were going to blame the guy who changed the deal and bailed out in the middle of the night on our friends and allies.

and if you really want to be amazed, contrast democrat and chinese platforms.

 

Why don't you be specific and point some of those out..... Oh never mind I didn't mean to help you derail this thread too. Carry on.

But here's a good idea why don't you make a thread about that and be very specific about the similarities

 

And yet it was the Democrat platform that created this situation.

 

Does the Left care? Or is this just a club they grab when they can use it to political advantage. Biden's taking no heat for this.

YOU’LL NEVER UNDERESTIMATE JOE’S ABILITY TO F*** THINGS UP AGAIN: Why the Afghanistan Withdrawal Was the Perfect Storm of Bureaucratic Incompetence.

"President Biden wants you to forget about what happened in Afghanistan. He wants you to forget about the bureaucratic incompetence and incompetent decision-making by nearly every senior leader. To this day, no one has been held accountable. Accountability, even verbally, would mean admitting failure and taking ownership, something the Biden administration refuses to accept."

No one ever will.

"The botched withdrawal wasn’t a mistake or a one-time bad call. The catastrophe occurred due to consistent and specific inept leadership failures at the Department of Defense, Department of State, the White House, and the Intelligence Community. Failure to plan. Failure to be realistic about the strength and capabilities of the Taliban. Failure to adequately prepare and vet people to get them out of the country before the U.S. military departed. The Biden administration failed to connect the dots and keep agencies in sync. Pentagon leadership downplayed the truth about the shell the Afghanistan government and military was, as well as the reality that without the U.S. dollar and military propping them up, they would all come crashing down. Washington was hoping for an Afghanistan that they wanted – that should have been after 20 years of war and $2 trillion – but wasn’t. The withdrawal wasn’t a mistake – it was a catastrophic failure of epic proportions."

Welcome to Biden and the Dems.

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Seems like a BS comparison to me, but perhaps you can provide a few specifics as a starting point for discussion. In other words, you have made a claim, abeit via inference. Now support your claim.

 

Trump supporters, RWers, Conservatives, I really don't care how you label yourselves, but leaving Afghanistan was why the Taliban came back into power. Blame yourselves, you wanted out, you got it. !!!

 

One again, the liberals claim that Biden is not responsible for anything. Everything bad that happens during the his administration is due to Trump and Putin.

You cannot deflect from the fact that the cowardly and dishonorable fleeing of Bagram in the middle of the night and the sandbagging of our allies was ordered and orchestrated by this guy.

 

I didn't say that. Maybe you don't remember, but I was always against the pull out.

 

You claim Republicans wanting to leave Afghanistan are responsible for the cowardly, dishonorable, and disgraceful withdrawal orchestrated by Biden. That is an intellectually dishonest claim.

You do the same thing Biden himself did. In the same speach he first took responsibility for the withdrawal debacle, then blamed Trump and then bashed our Afghan allies. He pulls out in the middle of the night without telling them and then states. "Afghan security forces "did not hold on as long as we expected." WTF?

 

Completely ok with it. Fighting in Afghanistan was stupid and a failure of the Bush regime.

 

20 years and our allies fell apart over night! How many more decades and American lives do you think it’ll take to turn these clowns into Jefferson and Madison ?

 

Lol without telling them? We’ve been saying it’s time to go for several years

 

Biden had us flee Bagram in the middle of the night with zero notice. A cowardly and dishonorable action. That is a fact that you cannot get around.

https://thehill.com/policy/internat...s-left-bagram-airfield-at-night-didnt-inform/

 

So do you think the families of the Marines killed in Biden's botched withdrawal are OK with it? Yes Biden inherited an Afghan war. And then he effed it up. Can you perhaps provide a reason for fleeing Bagram, a defensible airfield, in the middle of the night and then getting Marines killed trying to conduct an evacuation using an airfield that cannot be secured?

 

Nobody ignores it, but the western world can't help. What can we do if the Afghan people reject our understanding of human rights, freedom, and the rule of law?

Afghans love their Taliban.
They have to relearn but not by force.
We tried rescuing them before but it didn't work.

 

Well, if deaths of Americans were actually your true concern, then you would have to admit that far more soldiers were killed while Trump
was in office - at least there is now an end to a 20 year war where thousands of Americans died. Those last soldiers killed were a tragedy, but
at least they were the last - not an ever increasing death toll each year.

 

Nothing dishonorable about giving 20 years of blood and gold to prop up their failed state. You’re just mad it was a democrat who ended another Republican war

 

"The buck stops with me."

Lol..

 

Biden supported both wars. Trump started no war. Next.

 

Trump ended no wars, Biden did.

 

Yeah, let's credit the guy who released the disease and provided the cure. Lol..

How US troop deaths were responsible by Trump?

 

So apparently many of those on the Progressive Left believe that, in some societies, there are just problems that government cannot solve?

I know it may be a very off topic question, but what makes you think the society you live in might not be someday transformed into that type of society?

It seems like the Left has just given up on Afghanistan, decided that there was nothing that could be done to help that society.

I'm just asking, does that same mentality have any implications for your country? (You know, while we're trying to be logically consistent)