Wonder What The EPA Would Have Thought…

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  1. Taxcutter

    Taxcutter New Member

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    …of Dr. Walter Reed, Dr. Carlos Finlay, Dr. William Gorgas, and Dr. Jesse Lazear? These guys made Florida, Cuba, and Panama habitable by cheerfully draining wetlands and spraying petroleum distillates over wide areas to kill off the mosquitoes and prevent malaria and yellow fever.

    Today, the EPA practically worships mosquito breeding grounds.
     
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    The mind boggles at the thought....
     
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    mamooth Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Again, back in the real world, malaria was eliminated in the USA through public health programs and the invention of window screens, not by draining swamps. Isolating a few humans who have malaria is doable, but isolating a trillion mosquitos is not. It makes no difference whether there are one trillion or ten trillion hanging around; there are always more than enough to bite people. However, if they can't bite any diseased humans, the infection chain is broken and the disease is eliminated. That's why treating and isolating all the humans -- even the ones who can't pay -- is the key.

    The moral? Letting any conservative into a position of power usually results in catastrophe, due to their insistance that their delusional political fantasies are an acceptable substitute for common sense and scientific facts. If we let them have their way, malaria would make a big comeback, being that they'd let malaria patients remain untreated and spread the disease.
     
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    Gorgas, Reed, Lazear et al had them draining swamps right and left and sprayed oil on what was left.

    Bingo! Malaria beaten.

    Today the EPA would insist on their arrest.
     
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    I dunno Mammoth....The CDC (and you would think they would know) say it was draining swamps and spraying DDT (gasp!) that killed off malaria in the USA:

    Here is their webpage WITH PICTURES:

    http://www.cdc.gov/malaria/about/history/elimination_us.html

    LOL...you need to go to bed early tonight, your batting zero......
     
  6. mamooth

    mamooth Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You did notice those pictures were of the malarious areas in the USA across the years, no? Pay close attention to how malaria was eliminated over most of the USA way before DDT usage began.

    So Elmer, exactly how was DDT able to eliminate malaria before it was invented? Elmer, do you believe DDT has magical time-travelling powers?

    Everytime I think your side can't possibly get more absurd, you prove me wrong.

    By the way, you realize your tagline applies very aptly to you, right? All of your posts are attempts to scare people with nutty stories about the EPA and your other favorite bogeymen and imaginary hobgoblins.
     
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    LOL......you have been OWNED buddy.......anyone with a brain can read the CDC report


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    Nooooooo....it doesn't follow the liberal agenda so it cant be true!!!
     
  8. mamooth

    mamooth Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    When Elmer starts screaming insults and stops even trying to debate, I just laugh and carve another notch.

    Oiling the swamps tends to be pointless, because most mosquitoes don't fly more than a mile. That mosquito that bit you came from your birdbath or the nearby drainage ditch, not from the swamp in the next county. That's why you don't oil the Everglades to stop mosquitoes in Miami. But if Elmer had his way, that's exactly what he'd demand, given that his political cult demands he parrot such idiot PC junk science.

    Reed, Gorgas and Finlay didn't beat the diseases by oiling every swamp in Panama. For god's sake, learn some history people. It was the sanitation programs that beat the disease -- screens, mosquito netting, eliminating nearby standing water sources, and -- the big one -- isolating patients so they couldn't infect more mosquitoes. When the disease has no non-human primary hosts, you wipe it out if you don't let the humans infect more mosquitos. Swamp draining/oiling is pretty minor, because again, MOSQUITOES DON'T FLY VERY FAR, and it only makes sense to do it in areas directly adjacent to humans. That would be why nobody is out oiling swamps now. While the kooks will declare it's because of a liberal conspiracy, in the real world, it's not done because it's pointless, and because larvacides accomplish the same mission without wrecking the ecosystem.
     
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    But they drained a lot of swamps. And the malaria and yellow fever receded.
     

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