World alarmed by violence in US

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  1. Thedimon

    Thedimon Well-Known Member

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    Bollocks is a good description of what you wrote.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crisis_situations_and_unrest_in_Europe_since_2000
     
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  2. Bluesguy

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    I understand the Brit leftist defaced the Churchill memorial yesterday.
     
  3. LafayetteBis

    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You've got the reasons all wrong, wrong, wrong!

    Educate yourself here: Issues in the U.S. Education System

    Political Party control of inner cities means nothing if a matter is not NATIONAL IN NATURE. The same goes for Healthcare.

    Which Americans cannot seem to understand. And why Europe does understand. Because both education and healthcare - two of the foundational-basics of any healthy economy - are assured by national funding (out of taxation)! Meaning more kids go to post-secondary schooling in Europe than the US and Europe's life-span is four more years longer than the US!

    As I never tire of saying: We are spending far too much money on the DoD! That money would be better spent in two other Public Spending Platforms - National Healthcare for Everyone and Continued Education at the Post-secondary Schooling level ... !
     
  4. LafayetteBis

    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    PERSONAL CONSCIENCE

    And, of course, the death-rate from guns speaks for itself:
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    About the UK and guns, from here:
    There is also likely an element of personal conscience in the UK regarding guns and their usage that is obviously missing in the US - of the kind "I wannit ALL and I wannit NOW!

    Childish intellect, some would say ...
     
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  5. LafayetteBis

    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Global tensions, me arse!

    You invent these reasons to sooth your own conscience, which helps you accept the wanton gun-deaths that are happening in the US.

    One's time in the US armed-services educates no-one except in the art of war. Which is worthy ONLY when the nation is at war!

    Glad you feel that way about it.

    Here's a different opinion from the Economist:America’s love affair with uniformed men is problematic
    'Nuf said? Methinks not. For all that America "gets" from its expensive Armed Forces, it should turn its attention to money-spent improving the lives of Americans rather than fighting in foreign countries. America first and foremost, yes! But it needs a lot of internal reworking ... !
     
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  6. LafayetteBis

    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And, like many Yanks, you refuse to see what is happening because it scares the hell-outta-you.

    Which happens to people who cannot think beyond themselves and the fact that they are only one tiny element of a very huge complexity.

    Which is a fact-of-living that will never change given that our population-rate is ever expanding.

    What must be changed is our sense of Civic Duty that goes far beyond any military service.

    Civic Duty - definition from the Legal Dictionary:
    It is well worth reading the rest as well. There are explanations there that many of us may have forgot since lessons in High School ... !
     
  7. Shook

    Shook Well-Known Member

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    Tsk tsk ... Your bigotry is showing, and your ratings have plunged well below 5%.

    Eeew.

    Are you still going to post?
     
  8. Shook

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    Link please?
     
  9. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Look at the factual evidence and let's open your shut eyes. In California blacks can't get past high school which is free, gratis and costs nothing. They scored so poorly on the high school exit exams that many liberals call those tests racist. And it gets better. In the CA university system, you get bonus points for being black and penalized if you're Asian. And once you get into a CA university, there are numerous programs specifically designed to help blacks.

    Nationwide, blacks probably get more athletic scholarships than anyone else. Unlike every thing else that's liberal, those scholarships are based on...brace yourself...merit. So with thousands and thousands of blacks going to college for free, gratis and for nothing, what is happening to them when they graduate? Do they even graduate? So blacks get advantages, some earned, some handed to them, for being black and if you look around the country not too many are taking advantage of their opportunities which are free, gratis and cost nothing.

    Sometimes I wonder about a social experiment, and we know how the left loves social experiments, where black kids are adopted at birth and raised by Asians. What do you think the outcome would be?
     
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    Half true.
    Rifles require good reason for ownership.
    Hunting, sport, recreation, resale, pest control etc.
    This reason must not be "self defence".

    Shotguns have no such requirements.
    You may own one for any purpose you like.
    Although you still need a lisence. Requirements for which include character references and a doctor's reference.
     
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    Umm... they’ve been alarmed for quite some time. The issue Is and has been we haven’t been alarmed in significant numbers to address it.
     
  12. LafayetteBis

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    Just an eloquent remark to justify doing nothing ...

    I'm writing to you from Europe. A place where Social Experiment works!

    Blacks get to university here as much as they want. No problem because their secondary-school (in each and every country) is run by the National Government. So, no effing around!

    The curriculum is both set and delivered by a Central Authority that is also responsible for the results.

    You wanna remain an assembly of 50 states, each independent. Well, that's what you got - an erratic schooling system and a national-healhcare service that is the most expensive in the world. (And produces a life-span 4 years less than in Europe.)

    Wakey, wakey, Uncle Sam! You've taken the wrong road with your 50 states each independent. They need a Central Coordination and Management to get the best results throughout the nation.

    And that aint comin' any time soon ...
     
  13. LafayetteBis

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  14. Shook

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    Oh, baloney. Britain does a heck of a job with kitchen knives and other edged weapons, some of which are illegal to possess for reasons unclear. Britain is a very violent country.

    You will note that you are ignoring diversity as a component and predictor of murder and other violence. The more diverse, the more likely is violence, which has nothing to do with guns per se.
     
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  15. HereWeGoAgain

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    Reagan's war on drugs is what turned the inner cities into war zones.

    Rule by brute force is what got us where we are.
     
  16. LafayetteBis

    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    WAKEY, WAKEY!

    Thank you for showing how much the Truth Hurts.

    Like a great many Americans, you can't accept the factual evidence - can you? That guns kill more people in the US than most any other means. The stats from here: Giffords Law Center:

    Wakey, wakey ... !
     
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  17. LafayetteBis

    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, Europeans demonstrate. That's a message being sent to their government. (The French will demonstrate at the drop-of-a-hat.)

    That's called Freedom of Speech!

    Neither do you have in the US "Freedom of choice" in the selection of the Head of government - far, far more important. We-plural have a system that dates from the end of the 18th and beginning of the 19th century (called a Constitutional government), which was at the time earth-breaking. Nothing of the kind had happened previously, and when it did happen a few years later in France, it was then dismantled by Napoleon. (In fact, he left it in place but totally disregarded it. He did not call himself "King", but "Emperor" was just fine.)

    Then, we invented this convention called an "Electoral College" in order to get the presidential vote to Washington. Which the south then decided was "unfair" because most the migrants from Europe were going to the northern states. So, they threatened to dump the "United States" if the voting process was not changed. So, at the time (1787 or thereabouts) Congress fiddled the Electoral College.

    And to this day, because of this unpractical "convention", the winner of the popular-vote has lost the election to the presidency 5 times in history. No other first-class democracy on earth makes this sort of serious mistake in electing its Head of state! Not one!

    The only real comparison worth noting is that of the EU, which was established post-WW2. In the 1950s, it became apparent that the European countries, rebuilding themselves out of the destruction of WW2 would need their own system-of-governance. They looked around and decided to copy America's. But, with one exception. They rejected the notion of an Electoral College, and established a multiple-party representational democracy with the Head of state designated by the congressional-party majority! That is, the House of representatives but without a Senate (which exists only in some EU-countries.

    The employment of an Electoral College is NOT CONSIDERED A TRULY FAIR & HONEST DEMOCRACY IN ANYBODY'S BOOK to elect the Head of state - other than Uncle Sam!

    The total-state national popular-vote will do just-fine for designating the presidency of the US. Let's bring it back ... !
     
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    Linky linky.
     
  19. LafayetteBis

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    You mean this one?
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    If not, which one ... ?
     
  20. LafayetteBis

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    Blah, blah, blah with your personal opinion.

    The facts are in the data as I posted them. If you don't know how to read the factual evidence, then your interpretation of them is useless ...
     
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    You need to learn how to interpret data. Correlation does not equal causation.


    So you post a chart of income levels by race and automatically assume some sort of racism is at play. Your assumptions are not proof of anything. You did the same in the OP.
     
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    The world should be alarmed by the mob’s “group think” and public (religious-like) confessions.

    It’s all very communist in the Maoist traditions, especially with the persecution of those who don’t think the “correct” way.

    Very, very scary.
     
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  23. Thedimon

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    So, you claimed EU never had civil unrest. Then, when you were proven wrong you go off topic to rant about electoral college.
    I would like to remind you - there are no elections of EU head whatsoever. And each country in EU has a veto power - can you imagine disfunction if each US state had a veto power? The US federal government is designed around the concept of federation - the union of states. Each state doesn’t have a veto power but each does have 2 senators, therefore this system attempts to look at popular opinion and preserve the concept of the union. So, at least in the US we have at least some say in who heads executive branch, unlike in the EU.
     
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    That coupled with turning our police into a domestic military that views all non-officers as an enemy. Community policing is dead in many areas.

    That unmarked officers can use weapons on US citizens on US soil that are banned in war zones while the right activity applauds it (or calls for harsher measures) show we are headed towards a failed state.
     
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    The chances of an unarmed black person being killed by cops during an arrest are the same as being hit by lightning. The chances of an armed white person facing the same thing is double that. To say that an unarmed black person being killed by police is vanishingly rare is an understatement. Yes it is tragic when it does happen. Yes it would be nice if it were zero but nothing is zero.
     

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