World Peace & Removal of Terrorism

Discussion in 'Ethnic & Religious Conflicts' started by dattaswami, Feb 24, 2012.

  1. dattaswami

    dattaswami New Member

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    There are two root causes for the entire chaos and terrorism in this world. One is the thirst for earning money and the other is the religious fanatic. Due to money, people are quarreling, hereas due to religion, countries are quarreling. Unless these two root causes are eradicated we cannot achieve world peace. The tree will not die by cutting leaves and branches. It dies only by cutting its roots. There is no use in earning the extra money. Due to excess money, quarrels, mental worries and several other problems arise. Finally, it ends in loss only and not in any profit. You have to leave all this extra money here only and quit this world alone. Your issues may lose that money given by you. Such sinful extra money brings problems not only to you but also to your children. Neither yourself nor your children will be happy and peaceful. This entire world is the property of God and take whatever is required from it. This is said in Gita, (“Yavanartha….”).

    In these days, buffet system is followed during feasts. In this system, large vessels contain various food items and people take food from these vessels according to their requirement. Similarly, God created this entire world and you can take the wealth from it according to your requirement. People are not following the same system when they are taking wealth from this world. The peculiarity is that most rich people follow this buffet system in the feasts but do not follow the same when it comes to earning the money. ‘Esavasya Upanishad’ says that one should return back this extra money to the Lord. Otherwise, the Lord will give the troubles.

    In buffet system, if one takes extra food in his plate by over ambition and ignorance for a moment, he returns back immediately before starting eating. Veda says that you must return back the extra money for the God’s work if taken by ignorance. In the buffet system if you eat the extra food, you will suffer from diseases. Similarly, if you enjoy the extra money, God will punish you in several ways.

    In this world, people belonging to any religion think that their religion only is the true religion. They think that the God of their religion can alone give the salvation and the worship of that God should be according to their religion only. They also condemn other religions and invite people to convert people into their religion. They do lot of work to establish their religion only in the entire world which shows their ambition. It is just like Alexander’s ambition to make the entire world his kingdom. Alexander wanted to extend his kingdom. But, even he returned back after fighting with Porus (Purushotama) on seeing the loss of life in the battle. But, the ambition of religious fanatics is not subsided on seeing any amount of loss of life. Religion is considered to be backed with spiritual knowledge and the religious people are expected to be free from ambition. We can excuse ambition of any ignorant person like Alexander.

    The heart of a religious fanatic will not change by any amount of kindness or love expressed in the appeals. Such appeals can change only the heart and the change in the heart is always temporary. Change in the intelligence brought by knowledge based on logic is always real and permanent. Intelligence (Buddhi) is considered to be the driver of this body, which is like a chariot running by the senses, which are like the horses. If the driver is convinced, the entire chariot along with the horses is in the correct path. The terrorist will not change by love or kindness shown to him. He becomes the terrorist due to the wrong knowledge that enters his brain. He was convinced by that knowledge. That knowledge can be changed only by the right knowledge. A diamond can only be cut by another diamond. Similarly, one type of knowledge can only be replaced by another type of knowledge. Then only, he will be convinced and changed forever.

    So far, the trials made to change the terrorist were beating around the bush and therefore, they did not have much effect. Today, SRI GURU DATTA is giving the right knowledge to remove the religious conservatism.
     
  2. Mushroom

    Mushroom Well-Known Member

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    I generally ignore what you say, just skimming through it. Here is one that is so horribly wrong though. I invite you and anybody else to reread what you said earlier.

    You make gigantic and sweeping charges that are just not true. I have met a great many people who were religious, even fundamental about their religion. And none have ever tried to convert me to their religion. And I have never tried to convert them.

    You make claims that those that follow religion seem to think everybody else is evil, and want them to convert. Do you have some actual hard numbers as to how many or what percentage of a religious group are extreme "fundamentalist" or "evangelical"?

    And what is "religious conservatism"? I am conservative, I am religious. But my political beliefs have nothing to do with my religion (other then being my basis because of things like "The Golden Rule"). I certainly do not go around telling others what to do or think because of my religion, those are choices I have made myself.

    And you do not know me, or my beliefs, so I would suggest you not try and shove me into some kind of political Rorschach because of my beliefs either.

    In fact, an amazing number of the most fanatical "Religious Terrorists" actually tend to follow a "Liberal" or "Left-Wing" agenda. Have you ever noticed how many append "People" or "Popular" into their very titles?

    Popular People's Front
    Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine
    People's Liberation Front
    Palestinian Popular Struggle Front
    Palistinian People's Party
    Palistinian Popular Struggle Front

    I invite you to look through all these groups, see what their doctrine is, and what they believe. Yes, most of these are evengelical. But they are far from "Conservative", taking most of their political agenda directly from Mrs Marx, Lennon and Engels.
     
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    dattaswami New Member

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    Thanks for your nice and in depth reply. Yes off course there are definitively exceptional people who do not disturb other religions belief saying that theirs alone is correct. But my attack is to those fantatics they proclaim their religion alone is true others is not correct so one should join their religion-such mentality is critisised here, because such state of mind of rigid fanatics is the starting point of cracking of world peace..

    The simple truth is that the same God came to different part of the world in human form at different times to cater to the need of the people existing at the point of time to spiritually uplift them.

    Therefore there need not be any fight in the name of God.
     
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    Actually, I think you will find that is the view of most religions on the world. In fact, the oldest religions generally accepted the belief that there were multiple gods. Even "monotheism" did not discount that possability:

    "I am the Lord thy God, which have brought thee out of the land og Egypt, out of the house of bondage. Thou shalt have no other gods before me."

    Notice it does not even say that you can't worship other gods, simply that you can't place them before God. And in the oldest Jewish writings, "Ba'al" and "Yahewh" are often used interchangeably. However, after a split it became the name of the pagan god we know today.

    Compare that to the Islamic phrase "There is no God but God". They are very different.

    Now you are getting into Deist and Theism philosophy. In fact, one of the biggest examples of this is in the Abrahamic religions. Where all 3 generally accept the same thrology, but have splits centuries later from a starting religion (1st century for Christianity, 7th century for Islam).

    But with most religions there are common threads and beliefs. the Norse theology had a lot of converts because of the similarity between Jesus and Thor. The same with Mithraism. And almost all theologies have a "Great Flood" myth, from Europe and West Asia, to East Asia and the Americas.

    Debate is still going on as to this being the sign of them all being different way of looking at the same religious belief, different myths from a single or multiple floods, or just unconnected beliefs that tend to sound the same.
     
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    Here again you are correct....The essence of all the religions is one and the same since the Universal God gives it. The religions are different from each other because the religious leaders who are the human beings create the material that surrounds the essence. The skeleton is one and the same and there is no difference in the skeletons of the human beings. The difference lies only in the external materials covering the skeletons, which are flesh, skin etc., in these external materials differences arose due to deficiencies. Suppose there are two students. One is weak in physics and the other is weak in chemistry.

    Each student mocks the other for the deficiency. Therefore, the deficiency is the root of difference and quarrels in the religions. The reason for the deficiency is the human brain that developed the external body of the spiritual knowledge. Therefore, the spiritual knowledge is the skeleton and the religion is its body. The deficiency in a religion can be removed by taking the merits of the other religions. Every religion has deficiency and the rectification of that deficiency should be from other religion without any ego and jealousy. Do not think that you are without defects. Do not think that your parents have no defects. Do not think that your teachers and preachers do not have defects. Therefore, observe others and take the merits from anybody without prejudice.

    The blind thinking that your nation, your state, your district, your town or village, your caste, your family, your parents, etc., is the best or highest should be eradicated from your brain. Always base your self on your analysis and commonsense that is observed from the examples in the world. Your elders might have polluted the scriptures but this world is the best scripture written by God. This world-scripture is Universal without any color of any religion. You can develop the entire spiritual knowledge by observing this world and the scientific knowledge existing in the various examples or items of the world. Any human being cannot pollute these. You must be scientific and analytical in your belief. The ignorant and clever religious elders always exploit blind belief.
     
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    HEY. I THINK I SAW THIS MOVIE. Equilibrium. jackwagon.
     
  7. Zayas

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    I completely agree with you, a person becomes cruel because of the changes in his mind, some external pressure on his way of thinking. People need a right strong ideology, the essence of which would exclude a wish to commit crimes and terrorize, though this idea is closely connected with pacifism and we know that pacifism is not quite successful in our civilization. And yet there are people who want to play upon one's religious beliefs for the sake of gaining vile objectives and making profit of all kind, we can't do anything with terrorism. And as for people who do not claim their religion to be the first and the most one, they are true believers and i think they are not so few in number as you might suggest.
     

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