World uneasily watches US protests

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  1. MGB ROADSTER

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    What should police do if delinquent civilians loot and rob shops ?
     
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    And I explained that, by proving that racism is institutionalized in the US law and order department. You're just ignoring that to rant your own agenda.

    Superb. Doesn't change a thing about how racism is institutionalized.
     
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    First, I corrected the name in another post. In another post I showed that both ANTIFA and BLM is funded by George Soros' Open Society Foundation. I guess you ignored the fact that BLM has called for death of police officers, and ANTIFA has attacked Conservatives that wanted to hear a Conservative at Berkley University. Both are inciting and conducting terrorist activities.
     
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    “A well-regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

    The SCOTUS has consistently ruled that the right to bear arms is still relevant in the US. Further, there has been numerous cases of homeowners shooting people breaking into their house with the intent of causing bodily harm of the homeowner or their family.

    Yes, I do exercise my 2nd Amendment right. I own a 45 caliber pistol and a 7.55 millimeter rifle. That rifle is a single shot bolt action. I also did have a M16 rifle assigned to me as well as a 9 millimeter pistol. I am a Seven award expert with the rifle and a five award expert with the pistol. So, I know how to use one, and will hit what I shoot at. If forced to do so, I will not hesitate to use those firearms to protect my family. I guess you will let a home invader terrorize your home expect the police to show up to catch them. But if the police does not arrive, what will you do. Watch the home invaders rob you blind and rape the women in your family. I would hate to put my families safety in the hands of police that may not arrive for several hours after the home invaders have left.
     
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    I never said that ANTIFA and BLM are the same organization. I provided sources that shows that Soros funded both organizations. If you do not want to believe the proven facts, that is your problem. Now if you have reliable sources that debunks my the facts that I have proven. Then have at it. But until you provide the reliable sources for your claims, you have absolutely no credibility.
     
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    History does not support that. The ancients and the medieval world knew the races quite well but regarded racial differences much as we do hair or eye color. Modern racial prejudice really originated only in the early 19th century when it was used to support Southern American slavery which was a dying institution until the cotton gin made it economically necessary. I refer you to Kenneth Stamp's The Peculiar Institution and to the writings and speeches of John C. Calhoun who was the cutting edge of intellectual racism in his day.

    Why do you care really? It's a chanted slogan not an intellectual treatise. You're being as silly as if you wanted to fund giant pumps outside of Washington to "Drain the Swamp"
     
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    We are seeing the last gasps of the white majority fighting for their lives because they simply cannot fathom a nation where all are equal and they have to share power. At the very core of this white rage is racism. It is racism that fueled the conservative movement and racism that convinced white people to accept it as a remedy for what they felt was unequal treatment. Liberals wanted to help the poor and minorities through federal programs, that enraged white people. Liberals wanted to protect citizens from the police, the courts and corporations through federal action. White people saw that as an attack upon their fortress. Liberals wanted to embrace everyone and enforce the separation of church and state. White people saw that as the work of Satan. Well, the once semi-monolithic white majority is getting a hair cut. More white people now realize that all of this rage was misguided and inhumane and are now demanding change. Those that still resist are becoming the minority, the 30% who support Trump regardless of what he does. When the non-voting sector starts voting, that 30% will shrink to numbers that will change the balance of power finally. Progress is not the status quo or even a return to the past. Progress is moving forwards and Trump will be trampled in its path.
     
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    Perhaps you should write to Professor Issac:

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    There was racism in the ancient world, after all. This groundbreaking book refutes the common belief that the ancient Greeks and Romans harbored “ethnic and cultural,” but not racial, prejudice. It does so by comprehensively tracing the intellectual origins of racism back to classical antiquity. Benjamin Isaac’s systematic analysis of ancient social prejudices and stereotypes reveals that some of those represent prototypes of racism — or proto-racism — which in turn inspired the early modern authors who developed the more familiar racist ideas. He considers the literature from classical Greece to late antiquity in a quest for the various forms of the discriminatory stereotypes and social hatred that have played such an important role in recent history and continue to do so in modern society.

    https://press.princeton.edu/books/p...he-invention-of-racism-in-classical-antiquity

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    I care because these sloganeers have succeeded in shutting down Western Civ courses depriving American students of our rich heritage.
     
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    No, they don't. We have an urban society where people live on top of each other, not one where 150 years ago most Americans lived on a farm . What are guiding principles that we can apply to our modern circumstances?
     
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    Stay out of the way.
     
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    Arrest them if they can and take their picture to pursue them later if they cannot. Tear gassing peaceful protestors is not called for.
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    As the blurb says, the ancients did have PROTOTYPES of racism which "inspired the early modern authors". Modern racism was still largely invented in the early 1800's and this was done specifically to support Antebellum American Slavery, which was recognized even at the time as a "peculiar institution" unique among the types of slavery. In any case all types of racism are cultural artifacts, not inherent in the human psyche as you propose.
     
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    No, they succeeded in getting the names of the courses changed. I don't know what it's called now and it really doesn't matter, they change the names of courses in colleges all the time, they change the textbooks too but the content remains pretty much the same, though updated.
     
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    I chose the Daily Beast and the Medium (not Fox News) because they are notoriously liberal sites. But you discredit them simply because a conservative offered them as proof that Snopes and Washington Post are fake news sources. Maybe you should broaden your horizons, and read something other then fake news sites.
     
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    Kinda tells you how really civilized the American population is.
    When we had protests in 2001 in Serbia and ousted Milosevic, all the masses were focused on him and the political Elite.
    There was no looting across the country. In the "Land of the Free" richest country in the world, what do people do? Destroy small business, loot and kill other people.
    Focus your damn anger on the ruling elite not on your own people.

    On the other hand you have the country treating blacks as monkeys in a zoo. No wonder they get angry like this. Who would not.

    Next time I see some American pointing finger on other countries way of life I will gladly say **** YOU and your opinion.
     
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    I taught history for decades and have been very much involved looking at sources. I don't need a lecture from you about the Washington Post automatically being a source one should reject.
     
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    Oh, your one of those liberal teachers that indoctrinates their students through revisionist history. I bet you support claims that the Civil War was about slavery, and the removal of the Alamo from the history books. Did you teach the Common Core criteria? I saw one lesson plan where it said that Africans may have been the ones that discovered America. The stated reasoning was that Africans had boats, and boats travel on water. I have no doubt that you have used the Washington Post as a source of current events. Frankly, I feel sorry for your students.
     
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    I told you where to find it but you have to be capable of independent thought when listening to those nut cases. I think you have probably absorbed your limit at this time.
    Horse poop! There has always been slavery and there has always been racism.
     
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    Actually it looks like maybe the Trump boys.

    New York (CNN Business)A Twitter account that tweeted a call to violence and claimed to be representing the position of "Antifa" was in fact created by a known white supremacist group, Twitter said Monday. The company removed the account.

    Before it emerged the account was run by white supremacists, Donald Trump Jr., President Donald Trump's son, pointed his 2.8 million Instagram followers to the account as an example how dangerous Antifa is.
    "This account violated our platform manipulation and spam policy, specifically the creation of fake accounts," a Twitter spokesperson said in a statement. "We took action after the account sent a Tweet inciting violence and broke the Twitter Rules."

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/02/tech/antifa-fake-twitter-account/index.html
     
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    Those white supremacists are just like the Russians, a finger in every pie.
     
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    So, President Trump was duped by this fake account. Crap happens. But Trump is, and has not supported white supremist. Further, there have been several articles in which ANTIFA and BLM members have admitted that they are behind the violence. There have also been some of the terrorists that have tried to blame white supremists for the violence, but this is nothing but smoke and mirrors.
     
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    Anyone caught looting or burning down a store, should be arrested, and charged with looting and/or arson. If they resist, then use any necessary force make the arrest. Up to and including lethal force. Anyone caught inciting violence should be charged with a hate crime. Personally, I think that we need to return to the days of rubber bullets and water cannons.
     
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