Worst US President of the last hundred years?

Oh no its shrub jr. Killed hundreds of thousands for nothing

 

Liberated Iraq and deposed a vile dictator.

 

And killed hundreds of thousands

 

No that was the terrorists, the Allies went to save lives.

 

And ended up killing hundreds of thousands of innocent people

 

No, that was the terrorists, all surveys agree that the vast majority of casualties in Iraq were killed by them rather than the Allies.

 

Those innocent people were not dying until we showed up

 

Yes they were, not only with Saddam's terror and occasional invading of his neighbours but through poverty and sanctions;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanctions_against_Iraq#Estimates_of_deaths_due_to_sanctions

 

Much much much worse in Africa.


Why iraq,?

 

Yep, your point being?

 

Why iraq?

 

1. Oil, Saddam has the means to fund his madness other countries lack
2. His sponsorship of terrorism
3. His WMDs.
4. His record of invading his neighbours in the most strategically vital area on earth.

 

1. Its his oil
2. Lots of leaders did that and still do
3. Did not exist according to the Iraq survey group
4. He wasn't invading anyone at the time


He did not make the top ten of vile dictators at the time.


So why iraq?

 

1. No it's the Iraqi people's oil
2. Sure do and maybe we should do something about them too?
3. Of course they did
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive...t/us-casualties-of-iraq-chemical-weapons.html
4. No he was between invasions when toppled.

 

I cant talk to someone who thinks wmds were found in Iraq when the bipartisan group sent to make that very determination said they were not. Some people will believe anything.


Say hi to bigfoot for me

 

how do you tick the whole list

 

You mean you're running away from the facts which are unacceptable to you because they disprove your fallacy? Or perhaps you ride on your winged unicorn?

 

I gave you the facts. Name one politician that says we found wmds. Dude if you believe that......you can believe anything

 

Sure

2006: House Armed Services Committee Hearing[edit]
On June 21, 2006 the United States House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence released key points from a classified report provided to them by the National Ground Intelligence Center on the recovery of chemical weapons in Iraq.[118] The declassified summary stated that "Since 2003, coalition forces have recovered approximately 500 weapons munitions which contain degraded mustard or sarin nerve agent", that chemical munitions "are assessed to still exist" and that they "could be sold on the black market".[119] All weapons were thought to be manufactured in the 1980s and date to Iraq's war with Iran.[118] The report prompted US Senator Rick Santorum to hold a press conference in which he declared "We have found weapons of mass destruction in Iraq."[120]

During a House Armed Services Committee meeting convened to discuss the topic, the center's commander, Army Colonel John Chiu, elaborated that the munitions are "badly corroded in most cases [and] some were deliberately dismantled, if you will, to prevent them from being used."[121] Nonetheless, in response to a question from committee member Curt Weldon, Col. Chui agreed that the munitions met the technical definition of weapons of mass destruction. "These are chemical weapons as defined under the Chemical Weapons Convention and yes, sir, they do constitute weapons of mass destruction."[122] Weapons expert David Kay, who also appeared before the committee, disagreed with the assessment, contending that any chemical weapon produced by Iraq in the 1980s would not remain a viable weapon of mass destruction today. Kay said the chemical agent, though hazardous, is "less toxic than most things Americans have under their kitchen sink at this point".[118] Speaking on National Public Radio's Talk of the Nation, weapons expert Charles Duelfer agreed: "We said in the [ISG] report that such chemical munitions would probably still be found. But the ones which have been found are left over from the Iran-Iraq war. They are almost 20 years old, and they are in a decayed fashion. It is very interesting that there are so many that were unaccounted for, but they do not constitute a weapon of mass destruction, although they could be a local hazard.[123]

In September of the same year, the report of the Select Committee on Intelligence on Postwar Findings stated that such discoveries were consistent with the ISG assessment that "Iraq and Coalition Forces will continue to discover small numbers of degraded chemical weapons, which the former Regime mislaid or improperly destroyed prior to 1991. The ISG believes the bulk of these weapons were likely abandoned, forgotten and lost during the Iran-Iraq war because tens of thousands of CW munitions were forward deployed along the frequently and rapidly shifting battle front."[124]

 

Obama still leads this poll as well. Truly the people have spoken and Obama is the worst President we have seen in 50 or even 100 years.

 

They were found and the Bush Admin actually suppressed it because US soldiers were being "burned" by the mustard gas.

"From 2004 to 2011, American and American-trained Iraqi troops repeatedly encountered, and on at least six occasions were wounded by, chemical weapons remaining from years earlier in Saddam Hussein's rule.
"In all, American troops secretly reported finding roughly 5,000 chemical warheads, shells or aviation bombs, according to interviews with dozens of participants, Iraqi and American officials, and heavily redacted intelligence documents obtained under the Freedom of Information Act.
"The United States had gone to war declaring it must destroy an active weapons of mass destruction program. Instead, American troops gradually found and ultimately suffered from the remnants of long-abandoned programs, built in close collaboration with the West," the newspaper reported. -CNN, Dana Ford Wed October 15, 2014.

But, WMD were found. Not that I expect a decent and well thought discussion about from you.

Even James Clapper (serving under Obama at the time) went on the record to say he was sure a good portion of Iraq's WMD were moved into Syria and/or destroyed just as the removal of Saddam started.

 

No wmds were found in Iraq. It us just silly to clsim there was and you lose all credibility when you you make such a boldly false claim

 

That is false. WMD's were found. You lose all credibility when you refuse to actually discuss with facts, instead of your absurd attacks and lack of any substance to your argument.

 

Then prove it. The bipartisan Iraq survey group had one mission. To report to the US Congress if WMDS were found. They categorically said none were found.

Those are the facts

 

We already have. Here is a pretty picture for you to look at:



SOME EXPOSURES DETAILED IN THIS ARTICLE
1 MAY 2004 Two soldiers exposed to sarin from a shell near Baghdad’s Yarmouk neighborhood.
2 SUMMER 2006 Over 2,400 nerve-agent rockets found at this former Republican Guard compound.
3 JULY 2008 Six Marines exposed to mustard agent from an artillery shell at an abandoned bunker.
4 AUGUST 2008 Five American soldiers exposed to mustard agent while destroying a weapons cache.
5 2010 OR EARLY 2011 Hundreds of mustard rounds discovered in a container at this Iraqi security compound.

WMD's were found. Period. Your apology is accepted.