Would the SnowFlake Generation have been able to win WW2

World War Two won by the greatest generation, one which had no qualms about nuking, carpet bombing, and doing anything it had to do to win the war. Would our current PC generation be able to do the same, I believe under current conditions after Pearl Harbor, Obama would go to Japan on a apology tour, and anyone calling for war with Imperial Japan would be called a racist, and there would be a push to vacate our military presence in Hawaii as not to enrage the Japanese any further.

 

I've often wondered had we had a bunch of Muslims trying to take over airplanes, with tiny little box cutters no less, and there were a bunch of WWII vets on those planes returning from action in Europe or the Pacific, what would the outcome of those hijack attempts been? I'd bet money, lots of it, that had we had WWII types on those planes, we'd just have a bunch of dead terrorist wannabe's laying around. It's the pussified people, who were taught not to stand up for themselves, but get the teacher or principal to deal with the bully for you, who sat there and let those planes be hijacked.

This current generation has life sooooooo goood, they don't even know it. They complain about "ugly hurtful words" and run to their pussified Safe Space. No backbone, no nerve, no guts.....

 

We won't know until the next total war.

 

NO. GOD NO. This generation of wussified Obama administration soldiers are pathetic. Pretty much the entire E4 mafia plays pokemon go, they get offended and tell on NCOs to the EO officers about EVER LITTLE THING. Women are given break after break to earn tabs they didn't actually earn. Most of the war in Afghanistan consisted of Obama not allowing us to shoot the enemy until they kill a few of our guys first. STRESS CARDS in Basic. WTF IS THAT (*)(*)(*)(*)? Get this BS. Our officers aren't allowed to address us as guys (such as, "alright guys here's the deal). Since there's females in the company, they have to be "politically correct". Obama has done so much damage to our military that it'll take years to reverse. We could not win WW2 the way this military has been gutted and restructured.

 

Todays (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) snowflakes couldn't even pass the Army's WW ll PFT today.

Back during WW ll the PFT had five events including minimum pull ups (palms out) was 7, today it's been dumbed down to 3.

Then last month the Marine Corps announced that they were dumbing down the PFT again so women could serve in combat arms. Why did they do ? If you don't want to do pull ups (today they call chin ups (palms in) as pull ups ) you no longer have to do pull ups, you can do push ups instead in the name of PC diversity.

So it was all just another Obama lie that the standards would not be lowered. In 2009 the Obama administration lowered the academic standards for officers of color. Whites are still held to the high standards.

Now they have lowered the standards for the PFT and CFT in the name of political correctness.

Remember those two women soldiers who passed Army Rangers School ? They didn't pass but were ordered to allow them to pass. Double standards in the name of PC diversity. s

When I went through Marine Corps boot camp the PFT consisted of five events, push ups, squat thrust, sit ups, pull ups and the 3 mile run. We also had the CMC comparable to the CFT of today but it consisted of more event back in the day. No points, you either passed or failed the events. Failed one event and you failed the entire CMC and were dropped back in training to do it all over again. Samed with rifle marksmanship, if you failed qualifying as a rifle marksman you were sent back two weeks and had to do it all over again.

Today 3/4 of todays snowflakes are rejected by the military because they are a generation of Pillsbury Doughboys. Then those who are excepted start crying and saying they want to go home when a DI yells at them during basic training. Will the barracks become a snowflake "safe place" in the military ?

 

People would rise to the occasion. It took America quite awhile to rise to the occasion then, as Churchill would tell you. The greatest generation were just a product of a difficult time, like a sword forged in a flame. They did what they had to do. The ruthlessness of total war in WWII was more a function of the tools available than the steel-heartedness of the people.

 

One of the planes went down without hitting it's target because the people on the plane did fight back. I agree that people returning from war would be more likely to handle that situation bravely - but that's no more surprising than saying a surgeon would be better at surgery.

 

Wow you sound tough....let me guess...Rangers?....force recon?...or were you on the teams. Please tell us a war story tough guy

 

90% of all German forces were tied down by Russia, most of German casualties were fighting against Russia.

So looks like the Greatest Generation wasn't even that Great....

Need I mention how 95% of all Japanese forces were tied down by China and how China killed almost 80% of all Japanese killed?

 

More on topic though, if the WW2 generation is the "greatest generation" then what is the generation that fought the "Greatest War"?

Nothing matches the horror and tenacity required to fight WW1...period. WW1 makes WW2 warfighters look like a bunch of (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)....sissies...

WW1 was a carnage focused on soldiers (which is why the death toll seemed so much less than WW2) that was unparalleled in all of history and will never be matched again.

 

Wow you sound like a pansy, what are you hipster? Yuppie? or are you on team Jenner?

 

I served ten years active duty. Want to compare DD214's? Come on tough guy....lets see your resume? LOL

 

First, Obama isn't part of the "Snowflake generation." He's a baby boomer.

Second, we would stand up for it. People do what is expected of them. We haven't had too many expectations for the millenials, and they've lived up to their absence.

I think we have always throughout human history said the next generation isn't as tough as we are, and much less tough than generations before us.

Think about Socrates:

 

You are the one trying to compare cocks, so only internet tough guy is you. Now if you have an opinion on the subject say it, otherwise you can continue with your childish behavior without my partaking.

 

Look you made a claim about this generation not being tough. This generation that is dying on the battlefield as we speak. This generation that has VOLUNTEERED to lay down their life for this country during war if needed. You must be damm tough to call them snowflakes. So....what's your high score on Call of Duty. LOL

 

Look I gave my opinion about this generation overall not having the stomach for what it takes to win a war. Unless I am mistaken, Iraq has still not been pacified nor has Afghanistan. I am calling the generation snowflakes, because that is what they been taught they are... Now you can continue your ridiculous (*)(*)(*)(*) measuring but claiming you served does not allow your opinion to mean more then someone else's. If you served thank you and woopsi (*)(*)(*)(*)ing doo.

 

So what was it that kept you out of the military? We had two wars to fight....the marines were looking for tough guys like you....but instead you let these "snowflakes" do the job while you sat on the couch. You are not fit to shine their shoes son. Your cowardice is noted and you are dismissed.

 

So by your logic the whole of the United States should have joined the military.....otherwise they would no longer have a voice about American military policy or capability. Only doing extra push ups, and running really hard makes you fit to make such determinations. Your Ignorance is noted, and I dismissed you a long time ago.

 

Not the whole of america....just military age citizens that feel they are tough enough to contribute to the fight. You were not amoung them. You didn't join because you were afraid to get killed....I get it. We did the job for you. But don't call people pansies who were fighting on the battlefield while you were watching Duck Dynasy reruns.

 

As long as they have their big gulp and an easy chair and xbox.

 

Gosh - would you like a tape measure?

I have a couple of friends in their late 20's who run a triathlon 20 weekends out of the year. One is a female trainer.
But honestly - how tough do you have to be to operate a drone? The enemy is just as dead.

And considering the bulk of foot soldiers would be drafted from poor neighborhoods - and you guys are always complaining
about how violent those neighborhoods are ...?

As for the college crowd - many of those were placed in non-combat positions in WWII as well.

Basically, this thread is just a weak cover for some old guys to have a d*ck measuring contest - so carry on.

 

"Would the SnowFlake Generation have been able to win WW2"

Republicans would attack America no mater what if a Democrat was President, they put party first

Trump today announced he wants to bring back McCarthyism, only this time for Islamic ideology, he has already tried to call Obama and Clinton the founders of ISIS, in the past he would of called the other side he disagreed with Communists

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9/11 was a modern Pearl Harbor, and much thirst for blood on the part of Americans followed. Enough that our wonderful leaders even had enough support to invade Iraq, a country that had nothing at all to do with 9/11, two years after the event.

Fear not. Americans are as ready as ever to murder-death-kill when they're the least bit afraid for their lives.

 

And what does running a triathlon have to do with war and the military ? Being able to run 300 yard sprints come more into play in combat than being able to run for miles.

You seem not to understand how the draft works.

Those who lived in poor neighborhoods where most didn't attend college after high school were less likely of being drafted.

Now those whites who came from the middle class and rich neighborhoods who didn't attend college were very likely to be drafted.

You know what a draft board is ? When a male reached 18 years of age he registered with his draft board. Each draft board covered an area of equal population. If the Army needed 100,000 bodies each draft board was contacted to produce the equal number of bodies. The draft boards covering the poorer area produced the same number of bodies as the draft boards in the richer areas.

In my example my draft board covered the South Bay of Los Angeles County where 80% of high school graduates went to college and applying for a student deferment happened on the college campus when registering for college. You were advised to apply for a student deferment being warned if you're drafted during the middle of a semester there were no refunds on your college tuitions.

The draft board that covered the poorer areas of L.A. County like South L.A. and East L.A. where 10% or less went to college after high school the odds of being drafted were 1/10th than it was for the white kid in the South Bay who wasn't going to college.

When the Army needed fresh bodies both draft boards were required to come up with the exact number of fresh meat for the Army.

Those from the richer neighborhoods who weren't attending college were more likely 90% being drafted than those from the poorer neighborhoods.

End student deferments then the playing field is leveled and your odds being drafted were the same with everyone else no matter what draft board you were registered with.

And what draft board you are required to register with is determined where you were living on the day you turned 18 years of age.

 

Yeah, why didn't those guys during World War 2 use GPS and laser guided bombs to minimize collateral damage rather than nuking or carpet bombing?