would you fight to legalize weed?

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  1. Tribearer_Eko

    Tribearer_Eko New Member

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    would you or would you not? and why.
     
  2. Renegade4196

    Renegade4196 New Member

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    It's an issue I'm more indifferent on. I think that there wouldn't be too much of a difference, the only one being that there would be even more people getting stoned all day, which could lead to more DWI's.
     
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    dreadpiratejaymo New Member

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    I would fight to legalize.

    I would do this because I read the story of why it is illegal, and I know not one good reason exists.

    I would fight to keep good people out of prison when they haven't done anything to hurt anyone.
     
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    Ethereal Well-Known Member

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    I'm not sure what you mean by "fight", but I certainly support the legalization of marijuana, along with all other drugs.
     
  5. hiimjered

    hiimjered Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I really don't care whether or not it is legalized. I have no reason to fight for or against the legalization of this or any other drug. I would prefer that it be made legal, but I don't care enough to fight to make that happen.
     
  6. Renegade4196

    Renegade4196 New Member

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    While it wouldn't make a difference to me if marijuana is legal or not, but as a previous poster stated that it would take fairly innocent people out of jail, I think that some hard street drugs should stay illegal. I don't see much reasoning in legalizing heroin, cocaine etc.
     
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    No, I would not fight to legalize marijuana. I also would not fight to keep it illegal.

    Personally, I would like to see all drugs legalized but drug abusers would not be allowed to recieve welfare.
     
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    Every person have different perspective toward work but I want take your consideration that whether one agree or not but every one is willing to remove this from our locality as it is affecting our society badly.
     
  9. Fish2000

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    by legalising all drugs for personal use but strengthening laws and bringing in mandatory prison for drug suppliers / dealers, several things would happen.

    The black market value would significantly decrease - removing revenue from organised crime groups.
    People that have not hurt anyone would stay out of jail.
    Dealers / manufacturers would have less incentive to produce illegal drugs.

    Google portugal / drugs. They decriminalised all drugs for personal use and are the only country to see a dramatic decrease in hard drug use. The costs of jailing people also dramatically decreases -
     
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    I agree that legalizing would keep more undeserving people out of jail, but many other issues would crop up also. For example, how would the issue of DUI be handled? As far as I know, there is no portable device police officers can carry around that would allow them to know if a driver was high. This is a legitimate concern that needs to be considered.
     
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    Would I fight to legalize weed? Well, that depends. Who would I have to fight?

    I'd fight this guy:
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    But not this guy:
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    Steady Pie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Depends what you mean.

    If you mean using violence then no I would not, I believe counter economics to be a much more effective way of combating state tyranny. Simply use illegal drugs, cultivate illegal drugs and supply illegal drugs (not for profit) wherever possible.

    It was the widespread use and cultural acceptableness of Cannabis that led to its legalization in Colorado and Washington, not force. Force sets you back - it makes us look like the stereotype they've constructed.

    Smoke up! You're making a voluntary decision that coerces nobody.
     
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    Fight?

    No man....It'd blow my high.
     
  14. The Amazing Sam's Ego

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    Remember, legalization does not mean condoning the behavior. Alcohol and tobbaco are legal, but that doesn't mean the government condones or encourages it.

    Pot destroys your memory and it causes other health issues, tobbaco gives you cancer, and so does alcohol, and horrible liver problems. People make the wrong choices by putting unhealthy substances into their body.

    Unfortunatley, people have vices and bad habits, that are here to stay. However, weed should not be illegal; it should be legal for adults. Here's why. For a combination of reasons.

    Alcohol prohibiton was a failure, as history books tell you. So is marijuana prohibition. Alcohol prohibiton gave us the Al capones and the alcohol gangs, marijauana prohibition gives us drug cartels, and gang violence. When was the last time you ever heard of a tobbaco gang or a wine cartel? NEVER! Because they're legal. this drug war is increasing violent crime, just like alcohol prohibiton did. Didn't we learn our lesson from the 1930s? Two states have so far. History books taught us our lesson with alcohol.

    If marijuana was legalized, it's true that drug cartels would find other revunes for crime, but their violent crime would dramatically decrease, and thousands of lives would be saved. Drug cartels are against the legalization of marijuana the most.

    Marijuana, despite it's horrible effects on the body, is on the same level as alcohol or tobbacco. An adult can legally become an alcoholic or a smoker in the name of personal freedom over their bodies, but if they do pot, they're criminals who must be put in jail, often for many years. It's hypocritical and ridiclous. Alcohol causes more harm to society than pot does, both to the user and to other people in general. In the name of consitency, shouldn't weed be legalized, or ban alcohol too? Oh, wait, alcohol prohibiton was a failure.

    Alcohol can lead to a death from overdose. Pot cannot.
    Alcohol leads to violent crime, but pot does not.
    Alcohol kills way more people than pot does.

    We're wasting police resources on victimless crimes, that only harm the user, just like an alcoholic harms their own body, while we could use those resources to stop robberies, rapes, murders, and other violent criminals that truly harm society, not some petty person who makes a stupid choice to mess up their body with a substance that's not even worse than legal drugs. We could spend our resource more wisely to stop the real criminals.

    Oh, marijuana prohibition makes it a gateway drug; legalizing it gets rid of the "gateway". Here's a quote that explains why.

    "Another gateway hypothesis is that a gateway effect may be detected as a result of the "common factors" involved with using any illegal drug. Because of its illegal status, cannabis users are more likely to be in situations which allow them to become acquainted with people who use and sell other illegal drugs.[89][90] By this argument, some studies have shown that alcohol and tobacco may be regarded as gateway drugs.[84] However, a more parsimonious explanation could be that cannabis is simply more readily available (and at an earlier age) than illegal hard drugs, and alcohol/tobacco are in turn easier to obtain earlier than cannabis (though the reverse may be true in some areas), thus leading to the "gateway sequence" in those people who are most likely to experiment with any drug offered.[82]"

    The ironic thing is that while many well meaning people who are against legalizing pot, use evidence to support their position about why pot should be illegal, actually support the opposite position. The gateway drug is caused by marijuana prohibition, and so is a second one.

    People that oppose the legalization of marijuana state often that it will harm children, because it being legal makes it more accessible to them.

    False. Just like the gateway drug theory, pot prohibiton causes that problem, it doesn't fix it, making it legal fixes the problem. As Ron Paul and other pro-legalization people have argued, marijauna being legalized makes it harder for minors to get, not the other way around. Here's why. If it was legal, the government could regulate the sale of it, just like alcohol or tobbacco. Ron Paul said that it's easier for a minor to get marijuana, an illegal substance, than to get alcohol, a legal substance, because alcohol is legal and regulated by government rules.

    The real reason why marijuana is illegal is because William Randolph Hearst felt like hemp (the non drug version of it), was easier to manufacture for paper production, and it would harm his timber industry. So he ran a campaign with yellow journalism against marijuana to make it illegal, in order to have hemp (the non drug plant) illegal, so the hemp industry wouldn't make him lose money in his timber industry.

    I'm willing to listen to counterarguements, also.
     
  15. gamewell45

    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Since I don't smoke at all, I could care less whether or not they legalize pot or keep it illegal. Tho' if they did legalize it, it would generate a nice tax dollar.
     
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    how do you define a drug abuser??
     
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    I would fight to legalize it, to many otherwise innocent people being locked up for no reason. I cant stand weed, but if you like it, why should i care? Wanna (*)(*)(*)(*) yourself, feel free, its not my problem.
     

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