Would you help a woman being assaulted?

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  1. Yant0s

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    It turns out quite a few men wouldn't in today's society.

    I read an article discussing it and apparently most men would not intervene and allow the assault to happen.

    It's not because they like what they see or don't care. Apparantly the main reason is because possible repercussions that could happen to them if they got involved.

    As in if they tried to stop the attacker and caused damage they would be charged or possibly imprisoned.
    So Men are starting to play if safe and avoid intervining in situations.


    Same with a lost child. Apparantly most men would be reluctant to help a lost child with fear of being of accused a paedophile.

    It's like guys are becoming castrated and losing the instinct to protect or at least not willing to act on it.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    One of the unintended consequences of living in an overly PC violence-is-always-bad society.

    Oh well, I hope the women who support this get brutally assaulted & molested while passersby just stand by a safe distance away and call someone else for help on their cellphones.

    We have to get rid of violent masculinity, remember?
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's not just the law itself, it's also the views of police, prosecutors, judges, and yes, ultimately even members of the jury in some areas, that make things the way they are. If you want to trust that a member of the public will be willing to save you from a violent assault, without deterred by the very real & justified fear of legal repercussions, one of the things that has to be done is change the views of the people in society.

    Even just going back 70 years ago, people today would be surprised by many of the things people could get away with when they took matters into their own hands. (Kind of a separate topic, but related to this discussion)
    I'm not saying things were always right back then, but now things have swung too far in the other extreme.
     
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  4. Renee

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    Thank goodness I don’t know man who think like that. It’s interesting that they wouldn’t fight off one of their own gender. I always told children if they get lost to look for a woman with a stroller or a woman who looks like a grandma and never to go to a strange man.
     
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    Wow you must be quite insecure if you would just stand by and watch another human being getting brutally assaulted and molested. Either insecure or just not a good human being
     
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    I'd take my chances and help. Be a real man and do the same
     
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    I am a woman and if I saw someone hurting a child I would interfere in a second
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If that woman previously advocated another man be charged and sent to prison for trying to save another woman from getting brutally assaulted and molested, I would just stand by.

    (if there was even the slightest amount of legal risk to me)
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    even if the child was male?.....with the future of becoming a man?? Surprising.
     
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    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    See how guns can come in handy? Just staring down a barrel can stop violence in it's tracks, without firing a shot.
     
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    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    Somehow I think a white male child (especially) would be SOL.
     
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    No way - especially if they'd asked for it by, for example, staggering home pissed out of their brain in the early hours of the morning and wearing provocative clothes. So sorry missus, you made your bed now lie on it!
     
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    I agree that this is partially the result of the 'PC/violence always bad' culture propelled by the nanny state that wants scared, doscile sheep to protect and thereby control.

    However, I personally can't imagine watching a woman (or even a man) get brutalized and not doing something. Rationalizing that I might've got in trouble with the law for it would not help me sleep afterwards. I would intervene, and I have little sympathy for those that don't. May their nights be sleepless until they grow a pair.
     
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    How many times have we heard of or read that some busy-body do-gooder intervened then found himself the centre of attention of the assailant, and himself ended up in an A&E or on a gurney in a mortuary? Or as a witness in the court case who found himself targeted at home by the assailant's 'friends and family'. Dream on!
     
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    Better them than you, eh?
     
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    I'm not convinced actual behaviour has changed as much as is implied here, we might just be more aware or honest about it now. And while the conscious reasoning might have shifted somewhat, the core underlying influences are probably largely the same. Fear is pretty much a constant. The social acceptability of admitting to fear (especially for men) is more changeable.
     
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    No-brainer in my book. Interfering could turn into someone's worst nightmare and I don't want to be that 'someone'. How stupid would that be?
     
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    I suppose the politically correct course of action would be not intervene. Call the authorities and let them deal with the rape or assault that is taking place when they arrive.
     
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    Little mixed on this. I was at a ghetto house in Tampa (visting friends for Christmas) saw a guy raging up the street, it was obvious he was on dope. Me and my wife were leaving in my dads truck. On the way, he was being abusive to a female who was another obvious doper. My dad wanted to intervene (with no gun)

    I talked him into calling the law (it was not yet physical)

    The guy might of had a knife or gun, why get in a doper fight when the cops are nearby?

    Some people make their bed.

    Under certain circumstances, yes I would get involved.
     
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    No, that's the most common sense course of action; always trust your survival instinct then you can't go wrong.
     
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    Never said you should never own a gun
     
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    As I say we just have different values
     
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    There's a 'one liner' that I've always thought to be appropriate many times over the years - Doing the right thing isn't necessarily doing what's right. Someone not familiar with the term might have to spend more than a few minutes to get the drift. Another way of putting it is - the right thing to do is not always proper procedure. I would not hesitate if I saw someone in trouble.
     
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    Forgive my skepticism, but where are you getting stats on this overwhelming aversion to helping assault victims. I’ve seen so many social experiment videos on YouTube testing this and men, and a good number of women, overwhelmingly intervene in one way or another.

    Are you quoting something or is this your opinion?
     
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