Would you raise kids to be homophobes? No? Well why do you do this?

There was no question mark. You're lying again.

 

Please just leave me alone. I am having a horrible day right now and crying my eyes out. Please. Just. Stop. Tormenting. Me.

 

You should have done that a long time ago.

 

Sorry that you're having a bad day. Some of these people are just not worth it. This..what ever it is, is one of them

 

Apparently she still hasn't, she kept replying an hour later.

A tactic often used in the gay forum.

I asked a simple question, then the drama began. Now two fellow femmes further it along. Zzz... the "torment".

The overacting....

 

Companies are recognizing that love comes in all forms.

Honey Maid, as well as a host of other companies like Coca-Cola and Cheerios, has gone on record in support of love in all its different forms, between all varieties of adults. Here is the YouTube video of the commercial, “This Is Wholesome”, posted by Honey Maid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xeanX6xnRU

The new commercial first aired on March 10, 2014. Immediately, the company started receiving hate mail over it, especially from homophobic viewers. One Million Moms organized a letter-writing campaign because they “stand up for Biblical truth” against “sexual perversion”. Honey Maid had to know they were on the right track when that happened. Because most Americans aren’t filled with the kind of unreasoning hate that’s promoted by the organization.

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/0...lies-gets-hate-mail-look-happens-next-videos/

 

This thread demonstrates perfectly the unrelenting hate of the far left.

Their position is very very clear. If you are against gay marriage you hate gay people. Period.

And its not based on anything more than being against gay marriage. Anyone who is against gay marriage hates gays and is homophobic.

How could any rational person sit down with people so filled with hate and bigotry against anyone who doesn't agree with their position that they have to fabricate an emotion of their opponent based on nothing but their own bigotry?

I put these far left people in the same camp as the "God hates (*)(*)(*)(*)" group. Only that group numbers less than 100 people where the far left who claims if you are against gay marriage you hate gays is hundreds of times larger.

You have far left people in this thread who have equated the KKK to being against gay marriage. There is no reasoning with people so bigoted they cannot separate gay marriage from homosexual tolerance in society. Did Obama hate gay people when he was against gay marriage? Did Hillary?

I'm against gay marriage based on scientific fact. Not theories or other junk science claims that rely on speculation but the actual biological sexual reaction all humans have to sexual stimuli in which the body reacts to by preparing itself for natural procreation, aka heterosexual sex. All humans gay or straight have this biological certainty yet I'm supposed to pretend homosexuals who have this same reaction and still produce reproductive material (which can only naturally be transmitted through heterosexual sex) that their sexual preference is equal to heterosexuality based on nothing but theories and emotion. That is not the basis for creating new law or falsely equating their sexual preference with the real civil rights movement which dealt with race and gender 2 proven genetic traits. That does not mean I don't tolerate homosexuals in society or have friendships with homosexuals. That's the key.

I'm also against polygamy for the same scientific reasoning since it doesn't take more than one person to naturally procreate making polygamists the same as homosexuals meaning no basis in science or genetics for their sexual preference. That also doesn't mean I can't be friends with polygamists even though I don't know any.

I'm also very much against pedophilia mostly out of personal morality but also because children lack the capacity to understand what a sexual relationship entails while they are still developing. Again, based on science. My personal morality however cannot allow me to be friends with any pedophile, period.

Just because someone is against the political opinion of another either for political, personal or scientific reasoning does not mean they hate the subject either the group or person that they are against. This kind of new gay advocate McCarthyism is what is wrong with political debate. Its akin to being asked to negotiate with Hamas being Israel when Hamas will not even acknowledge Israel's right to exist.

If you cannot concede that someone can disagree with you without hating you or the group you support then there is no basis to begin a civil discussion.

 

raise your kids to support the American way... equal rights for all

republicans, you do not have to like that someone you disagree with gets the same rights as you, you just have to support them getting those same rights

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But you don't believe that. You believe in selective rights for some. Are you fighting for pedophiles or polygamists for their "right" to marry? Of course not.

Your belief in equal "rights" is limited to 2 person adult homosexual marriage. If you truly believed in equal "rights" for "all" you would be just as strong to remove consent laws against children and polygamy laws against polygamist marriage but your only goal is to remove laws against gay marriage so your definition of "all" isn't "all", its some rights but only for the ones you find acceptable making using your moral judgement no different than people who use their moral judgement to be against gay marriage.

 

When you cut through all of the smoke, it's about nothing more than small segment of society, around 3%, who for some reason or other want to engage in homosexual sex. They are humans like the rest of us. We don't need to create rules or considerations based on what we do with our plumbing.

Also, the word "homophobe" is a perversion of the definition of "phobia".

We also see GLAAD and their handbook of messaging.

 

WHO said equal rights for all? The discussion is about gays have rights equal to what heterosexual couples have. As I said before, this is nothing less that a logical fallacy intended to derail and obfuscate the issue and stoke slippery slop fears.

That's like saying that someone who advocates for right to die laws, or is prochoice, also has to be, or must be in favor of serial killer rights.


Get over it!

 

Um Fresh Air

Pretty clear.

Actually I quoted the person I addressed directly.

Get over what? Its clear you didn't read who I was quoting. I would suggest you check that out next time.

 

Yes Fresh Air said "equal rights for all" so you turn it into this inane moronic clap trap. I would suggest that you consider that.

 

You really want to ignore the dictionary on anything related to homosexuals don't you?

Homosexuals are those who are sexually attracted to the same gender. Once again- the definitions:

1ho·mo·sex·u·al adjective \ˌhō-mə-ˈsek-sh(&#601wəl, -ˈsek-shəl\
: sexually attracted to people of the same sex

: based on or showing a sexual attraction to people of the same sex

Full Definition of HOMOSEXUAL

1
: of, relating to, or characterized by a tendency to direct sexual desire toward another of the same sex
2
: of, relating to, or involving sexual intercourse between persons of the same sex

OED- Homosexual
ADJECTIVE

1(Of a person) sexually attracted to people of one’s own sex.
MORE EXAMPLE SENTENCES
1.1Involving or characterized by sexual attraction between people of the same sex:
homosexual desire
MORE EXAMPLE SENTENCES
NOUN


A person who is sexually attracted to people of their own sex.

 

You are the one bringing in polygamy and consent laws(why I don't know) into the topic.

What I- and most everyone here who supports gay marriage consistently say is this:

Homosexuals deserve the same rights to marry each other as my wife and I have.

Simple as that.

You can argue for polygamy or underage marriage if you want to.

I simply argue that my gay friends should have equal rights with my wife and I.

 

it is a slippery slope and we see it in the Boy Scouts. I'd rather see the govt back away having anything to do with how we choose to have sex.

 

Its funny to hear you say that Jeff since you name called your opponents "homophobes" or "bigots" no less than 13 times in a single day to describe your political opponents. One day. This is the kind of intolerance that makes civil discussion impossible.

I understand you disagree and don't like the fact I bring up scientific fact that you cannot debate but it doesn't invalidate the facts on what human bodies do when sexually stimulated.

And there is no way to have a rational discussion with someone who equates racism to being against gay marriage because you have already set the labels for your opponent before the debate takes place and the label is based on nothing but your own opinion. There is no factual evidence to relate race a proven genetic trait to a sexual preference.

Actually it has everything to do with the debate because its where I base my facts on, not emotion and not theories like the gay advocates. I'm using science to explain why we have had one man one woman marries in our society for hundreds of years.

It would be easier to believe you if you didn't label people homophobes and bigots 13 times in just a single day.

How do you expect people who are against gay marriage regardless of their reason be it science or religion to have a civil discussion with someone who labels them homophobes or bigots before the discussion even begins?

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I suggest you read what you are quoting more carefully. I only quoted what they said and pointed out the flaw in the statement.

 

Because Fresh Air claimed as so many liberals do that they want "equal rights for all" All I did was point out that was factually incorrect.

Based on what? What makes 2 person and only 2 person adult homosexual marriage worthy of this new right?

As I said, liberals base their arguments off emotion not facts. You are doing exactly that. Just because you have friends that you want to see get married doesn't make it a basis for changing and repealing law.

I have a friend who got a speeding ticket. She is a nice woman. That doesn't mean I want to demand the speeding laws be removed because I don't want her to get a ticket in the future.

 

You saw an opening and took a cheep shot. Someone did not consider what they were saying carefully enough, and you used it as an opportunity to spew moronic clap trap, knowing full well what that post was really saying

 

Oh? What's happening in the boys scouts that represents a slippery slop, and to what exactly?

 

to a homosexual I can understand that what you do is normal to you. In the definition of the word "normal", it is not. But, within the small subsection of the population who engage in the homosexual lifestyle then it is to each other.

To vegans, it's perfectly normal to not eat meat. But here's the rub. Those who are not vegans don't need to be told or worse, forced to constantly listen to the drivel or have our children told that eating meat is wrong. Choosing the homosexual lifestyle is EXACTLY the same thing. It might be what you want to do and like for whatever reason. You will then associate with others who choose a similar lifestyle and that is all well and good. But, it does not give you the right to force it upon others.

Much like veganism, if others wish to live the homosexual lifestyle then let them choose to do such on their own. We don't need homosexuals introducing their lifestyle to children be it in school or the Boy Scouts etc. If it's permitted, then every deviant lifestyle must be given equal time.

 

yada yada yada.....maybe there just there to be boy scouts. Sex, like a tumor. seems to be causing pressure on your brain causing you hallucinate

 

No, an accruate rebuttal.

Its not like FreshAir is the first. This is done all the time on your side.






See? Its a tactic the far left use to pretend they are all inclusive but when you get specific, its clear they are not making them no different from the people they vilify who are against gay marriage.

 

I am not certain what more I can say that wasn't covered by original sentence

Homosexuals deserve the same rights to marry each other as my wife and I have. Simple as that.

You don't agree that homosexuals deserve the same rights as heterosexuals. I disagree.