Would you rather have Russians or liberals interfering in our elections?

And, one is a domestic enemy- a sort of disease within, and much more dangerous to our long-term health and welfare.

 

Personal opinions my azz.... Using "company" communications facilities to discuss undermining a presidential candidate is unethical and beneath high level FBI officials sworn to uphold the laws of our country. Mueller certainly understood how inappropriate this was, and took disciplinary action. Why is this lost on you??

You derided Trump inspired tax reforms in an earlier post. Your response showed a lack of understanding of the positive impact of putting more money in the hands of individuals and business. Maybe you were happy with Obama's "new normal" of an average 1.9% growth, the slowest growth under any POTUS in recent history. Knowledgeable people know we can do better.

Facebook caved to angry snowflake social media responses to Goldman's statements, and was quick to announce his thoughts were his own and didn't represent the position of the company. That gives Goldman's statements all the more credibility, because they weren't scrubbed, scripted and sanitized to sooth the shallow feelings of the leftist/progressive/democratic party community. They represented the thoughts of someone who studied the full range of Russian Propaganda on FB. The fact is that no matter how long you think you've studied this area, you don't have the access to what was actually done that Goldman has. Show a little humility and a capacity to learn from others.

You've missed, misstated and/or misrepresented so many facts in our round-and-round discussions, that you're in no position to accuse others of "generalizations". But nice try....

 

not hating our left after they spied for Stalin and the left in general after they slowly starved 120 million to death is a better way to survive as a nation??

 

Who would admit they are a helpless fool at risk of being manipulated by a few $thousand of Russian social media advertisements? Better to be manipulated by 30 second TV commercials paid for with the $2 billion that modern presidential campaigns spend nowadays.

 

Something tells me that from time to time you have expressed derogatory opinions about others (including bosses, associates and friends) to somebody you trust and have hot sex with. And there is absolutely no evidence they weren't upholding the law. There is absolutely no evidence of criminality - NONE.

Oh please. Aligning foreign corporate tax law with the rest of the industrialized world is a very positive thing. OTOH, there is lots to criticize in the cuts for corporations. Of course it was the slowest growth. Coming back from a world wide recession takes time and averaging out growth over the 8 years when starting from such a hole is disingenuous at best.

Yeah he mouthed off and a couple days later mueller issues indictments against 13 russians outlining in detail what they were doing. But way to mischaracterize and once again conspiratorially interpret facts.

Oooooh. project much?

 

about a year if we had switched back to capitalism. Why would it take time unless we had socialist president?

 

I've never expressed anything derogatory about anyone at work using company issued cell phones (for calls or texting), or my company issued e-mail account. In fact I always carried two cell phones. My company issued Blackberry, which I only used for company related communications, and my personal iPhone, which I used for anything I damn well pleased. The point is that any communications where you use company devices automatically becomes part of company business, and is therefore company property. That's a 24x7 reality. When Strzok and Page repeatedly discussed undermining a Presidential candidate on company time using company communication devices, they threw professional ethics out the window and failed to conduct themselves to the highest FBI standards. They were consequently removed from their previous positions, and they may end up losing their FBI jobs in the end. That you would defend this behavior is really disappointing. Do you really want to continue going down this path??

It wasn't just "averaging" over 8 years. Obama's economy was stuck in 1.5% - 2% annual growth without any end in sight. That you would find this acceptable is strange and not a world most of us want to live in. Do you still want to go there??

This makes no sense. Goldman's comments have nothing to do with Mueller's indictments. The fact remains that Goldman was right -- indoctrinated and gullible left wing voters were duped when they should have aware. That was his message loud and clear, and that's the story when all is said and done.

Your repeated factual misses and misrepresentations aren't projection -- they're a reality you don't want to confront. Don't pretend otherwise.

 

I don't defend it. I explain it. But they didn't repeatedly discuss undermining Trump as if a conspiracy. That is a mischaracterization. It also totally ignores the trash talking they did about all kinds of democrats INCLUDING hillary.

The only thing you got is indiscreet use of "company" communications. That ain't a giant conspiracy. That's being stupid in lust and familiarity.

Its not unacceptable especially if inflation is low and employment is strong. Economics degree and all.

Oh please. He opined about how the russian ads weren't any big deal and a few days later Mueller's indictment of 13 russians mentions "facebook" 38 times. He apologized to his company and to mueller. What's loud and clear is the thickness of your filter.

Keep swingin'. One's reality really can be manifest thru desire, it seems.

 

But you did defend it. You wrote it all off to "lover" tweets.

I don't know how you can interpret the discussions of undermining Trump any way different. The fact is that Trump was their primary target. They discussed having an insurance plan for Trump, and taking things to Andy's (Andrew McCabe) office for further discussion. Anyone in a position of power in the private sector, behaving in a similar way, would be fired on the spot. I know I would have in my position at one of the major international Investment Management companies. You're right that they're at least guilty of grossly misusing company communications. However, given that Strzok and Page have been demoted, and McCabe couldn't run to the exit door fast enough, they're guilty as hell and have much bigger things to worry about. Why this is lost on you is still perplexing.....

People with "Economics degree and all" understand that the U6 unemployment measurement is a much more accurate depiction of reality. And that says that unemployment is not near as strong as the talking points you've been fed. Sorry, Obama's "new normal" for growth wasn't enough to even suck up the growth in new entrants into the labor market. It's sad that it was acceptable to you. Thankfully, others disagree.

Whatever. The fact is that Goldman was correct -- the answer is to have a society where there aren't a large portion of voters who are ignorant, gullible and easily manipulated. In this case, a large contingent on the left. No government can protect a society that can't function effectively in the new social media world. Again, you're barking up the wrong tree.

When you stated that Michael Cohen was in Italy overlapping the time of the Dossier pronounced meeting in Prague in August 2016, I knew you were blowing smoke. Cohen was proven to be in the US the entire month of August, which blows you assertion out of the water. There was no overlap -- none whatsoever. Yet you read somewhere that there was, and regurgitated false information without doing any of your own research. I could go on, but it's not necessary. That's why keeping this going seems more and more a waste of time. I have little patience for those who reject the most basics of reality.

 

Is that Walter White on the far left?

 

I would like Repubs to stop cheating and let the votes fall where they may.

'Gerrymandering On Steroids': How Republicans Stacked The Nation's Statehouses

http://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2016/07/19/gerrymandering-republicans-redmap