y Russian ambassador told Moscow that Kushner wanted secret communications channel with Kremlin

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  1. raytri

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    That is not what happened.
     
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    Yes, MSNBC, is a thoroughly discredited news source now. It is clearly just another house organ for the clandestine intelligence arm of the now desperate entrenched corrupt bipartisan political class that can not tolerate an outsider in the White House,

    “The latest official to throw cold water on the MSNBC-led circus is President Obama’s former acting CIA chief Michael Morell. What makes him particularly notable in this context is that Morell was one of Clinton’s most vocal CIA surrogates. In August, he not only endorsed Clinton in the pages of the New York Times but also became the first high official to explicitly accuse Trump of disloyalty, claiming, “In the intelligence business, we would say that Mr. Putin had recruited Mr. Trump as an unwitting agent of the Russian Federation.”

    But on Wednesday night, Morell appeared at an intelligence community forum to “cast doubt” on “allegations that members of the Trump campaign colluded with Russia.” “On the question of the Trump campaign conspiring with the Russians here, there is smoke, but there is no fire at all,” he said, adding, “There’s no little campfire, there’s no little candle, there’s no spark. And there’s a lot of people looking for it.” THE INTERCEPT, Key Democratic Officials Now Warning Base Not to Expect Evidence of Trump/Russia Collusion, Glenn Greenwald, March 16 2017.
    https://theintercept.com/2017/03/16...-to-expect-evidence-of-trumprussia-collusion/
     
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    Comey: Russian spy. ;-)
     
  4. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    So why'd he lie about it?
     
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    Grokmaster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He didn't
     
  6. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    It was not reported on his security clearance paperwork as is required by law. Save the Sessions defense as Jared wasn't a senator.
     
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    Is there some relevance, some point you're trying to make?
     
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    I've heard from multiple unnamed sources that James harden is really the riddler.
    And you have to believe me because I and several friends will cite unnamed sources to back it up.

    See how retarded that is?

    I'm not defending his policies I'm pointing out you don't have any evidence.
    Does it get tired working out of the same old playbook day after day?
     
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    I would because those would be relevant facts, and unnamed sources still aren't per se credible.

    You think exceptions are the norms do you?
     
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    You know, you are so detached from this argument about understanding the basic fundamental requirements of a new administration, that you simply blew your cover with this grossly foolish question of yours. With all due respect, you really do not have a clue.

    Do you honestly think that a new administration who is not in an official capacity yet, can just up and circumvent 17 intelligence agencies and go rogue, by doing whatever they want? I'm not sure what it is you're smoking, but it must be some mighty powerful stuff?
     
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    And what was the acting director's "exact quotes"?
     
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    Another person who doesn't understand how media use of anonymous sources works.

    When a media outlet uses anonymous sources, they are putting their own credibility on the line. They are saying "we know and trust this source."

    You are free to disbelieve them. But it's more credible than some random dude on the Internet making a claim.
     
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    FAKE NEWS: WaPo Made-Up Kushner’s Request for ‘Permanent Back Channel’ Communication with Russia

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    During the meeting wherein the Washington Post asserted that Jared Kushner proposed a secure line between the Trump administration and Russia, it was actually the Russians who proposed it.

    The source alleges that the permanent back channel “was never discussed”. What really happened was the proposal of a one-off call about Syria.

    Fox News reports:

    A December meeting between Jared Kushner, President Donald Trump’s son-in-law and one of the senior advisers in the Trump administration, and Russian ambassador Sergei Kislyak at Trump Tower focused on Syria, a source familiar with the matter told Fox News Monday.

    During the meeting the Russians broached the idea of using a secure line between the Trump administration and Russia, not Kushner, a source familiar with the matter told Fox News. That follows a recent report from The Washington Post alleging that Kushner wanted to develop a secure, private line with Russia.

    The idea of a permanent back channel was never discussed, according to the source. Instead, only a one-off for a call about Syria was raised in the conversation.

    In addition, the source told Fox News the December meeting focused on Russia’s contention the Obama administration’s policy on Syria was deeply flawed.
    . . .
    Kushner suggested the use of Russian diplomatic facilities as a way to shield pre-inauguration discussions with Kislyak from monitoring, according to The Post.

     
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    Wow! Let's backtrack even further and further.
    Obama
    Clinton
    Teddy Kennedy

    Now you want to go back to Teddy Roosevelt?

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    Ahhh. Faux News reports. Well there ya go.
     
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    They probably are. But there's a big difference between openly stating that Flynn/Kushner are being investigated and openly stating the the President of the United States of America is being investigated.

    I don't believe that Flynn discussed lifting sanctions except on the orders of trump.
    I don't believe that Kushner discussed a secret line to Russia except on the orders of trump.
     
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    Kelly, like Flynn, is a good soldier who follows the orders of his Commander in Chief. Is that so hard to understand?
     
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    Notice the lack of complaints over the OP being anonymous sources? It's because the WH has all but confirmed it's true. Anonymous sources proven correct again. Nice work MSM, exposing more WH secrets and lies!
     
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    Uhm they why hasn't Kushner or the WH denied it?!?
     
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    Would these be the same outlets who were reporting in total scoops of ice cream consumed?
    They don't have credibility to lose
     
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    That's NOT what Comey said. Listen to the line of questioning.. Comey said that in his experience no FBI investigation had been quashed by pressure from above. He was plainly saying that Investigations could not be called off by Trump, not that Trump hadn't asked him and tried.
     
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    Fox News has it wrong.. Kushner and Flynn made the request Dec 2.. The Russian ambassador communicated the shocking request to Moscow which was picked up by our intelligence at the time.. Months later the Russian amb revealed the Kushner/Flynn request to the press.

    Why lie about it now?
     
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    Yes, the context is important. Good on you for trying to point it out.
     
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    People don't listen.. Hell that's 90% of Trump's problem.. He doesn't listen.

    I got my comeuppance when I was about 30 from my boss and mentor.. I had to actually learn to listen.
     

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