y Russian ambassador told Moscow that Kushner wanted secret communications channel with Kremlin

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  1. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have it on good authority, Putin personally supervised hackers, righting our voting machines against Hillary :roflol:
     
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    Um ... that was never a standard. Jeebus.

    The "national political media" is a very large group. I was talking specifically about the NYT and WaPo.
     
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    Again the popular vote does not exist so nailing it or what have you is entirely immaterial.
     
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    Are you an anti-Christian hater or something?

    We've known this for years. In August 2014, Michael Ledeen, a former consultant to the National Security Council and U.S. Defense Department, reported that Obama opened a back-channel to Iran during the 2008 presidential campaign. Ledeen said the back channel went through retired Ambassador William G. Miller, who also led the 1979 negotiating mission during the Iran hostage crisis. Ladeen wrote that Miller confirmed his back-channel involvement.

    Ledeen wrote:

    The actual strategy is detente first, and then a full alliance with Iran throughout the Middle East and North Africa. It has been on display since before the beginning of the Obama administration. During his first presidential campaign in 2008, Mr. Obama used a secret back channel to Tehran to assure the mullahs that he was a friend of the Islamic Republic, and that they would be very happy with his policies. The secret channel was Ambassador William G. Miller, who served in Iran during the shah’s rule, as chief of staff for the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, and as ambassador to Ukraine. Ambassador Miller has confirmed to me his conversations with Iranian leaders during the 2008 campaign.
     
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    Yeah really bugs you that Obama was in bed with the Iranians during his 2008 campaign. Makes it hard to whip this into a "scandal", doesn't it?
     
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    Fourteen hundred elected seats lost over the last eight years and counting, another elected seat NOT gained less then a week ago. What were you saying about Conservatives being lost in the wilderness? :wall:
     
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    lol.

    A Trumpbart article .

    & you were too ashamed to cite it.

    Is it any wonder?
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Fourteen hundred elected seats lost over the last eight years and counting, another elected seat NOT gained less then a week ago. What were you saying about Conservatives being lost in the wilderness? :wall:
     
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    It's funny to see seemingly intelligent people so engrossed in Russian conspiracy stories that they lose the ability to think rationally and become the useful idiots so necessary for the Russian efforts to disrupt the US government and other democracies. Astounding.
     
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    Not hard at all, seeing that what Obama did was a legal back channel. What kushner did had nothing to do with a back channel.
     
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    Lol! I see you still haven't learned what a back channel is and have absolutely no idea how to debate this topic.. Unbelievable!
     
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    Thanks for making my point. Putin is enjoying the derangement.
     
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    Like I said, this road leads to big oil money and other ventures; http://www.msnbc.com/hardball/watch...ll-adds-up-to-something-sinister-956529731973 Jackie Speier is on the right track.
     
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    More from the PUI's (Putin's Useful Idiots). What's the crime ?? And now we have big oil (meaning the Koch brothers) running the show ?? Unfortunately the Russian economy is based on the price of natural gas which Trump has reduced by increasing the global supply. But why let facts interfere with a good conspiracy story ??
     
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    Yes I did.

    Scroll up. Hover over "wrote" in the paragraph title: Ledeen wrote:

    I demand that you immediately retract your scurrilous accusations, hang your head in shame, and then wear a Make American Great Again! hat for two weeks.
     
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    And again you dodge my direct question.
     
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    Lock him up.[/QUOTE]
     
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    They had more evidence than you've got.

     
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    They're all showing signs of going back on earlier pledges to cooperate and hand over documents too.
     
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    Comey is much smarter than Trump.. He has his JD and a good track record. He had no dealings with Russian banks, neither the one under US sanctions nor the Russian Bank of Cyprus which is notorious for money laundering.
     

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